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DEAD & STARVING Horses in Ala, PLEASE HELP! Pictures Added Post 13

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  • #21
    There is a medium dead carcass and a long dead carcass. So 2 horses have died since he saved them and not even close together?? 1 had time to completely decompose while the others had no time to gain any weight?

    That's odd. Its seems that at least the live horses would be getting fatter as the dead horses turned into white bleached bones. They could not have been any skinnier in the past when he got them. That's about as skinny as they get.

    And moving the live horses is an odd use of time since they could be burying the dead ones instead. Those horses need food--not stress and being moved around. I mean, if he is saving them and all. Which horses are the obviously healthy ones? The ones that are still alive or pictures not posted for us to see?

    All I saw was a few starving ones and a few dead ones, but some were deader then others. None were fatter then others.


    • #22
      That's right Eq law. Talk about some good 'ol boys blowing smoke up our butts! What a crock! The pictures themselves show the various stages of decomposition yet again, no weight on the other "rescue" horses. Of course I'd bet there aren't any vet records on them either!
      People like this just make me sick!

      An Equine Abuse Officer in this area (who is no longer employed I might add) watched some idiots at a horse sale try to get a mare off the trailer after she went down. Guess what? The poor young, emaciated thing was in the process of foaling a live foal. Well, when she wouldn't stand right up afterward, they shot her! Sure the foal died too. My friend tried to get pics with her camera phone but it was to dark. She witnessed this "officer" on the scene not doing anything.
      I know that's somewhat off topic but I'm just so sick of seeing the abuse & total disregard of animal's feelings. I swear I love the 4-legged so much more than the 2-legged!
      Producing horses with gentle minds & brilliant movement!


      • Original Poster

        The horses had NO FOOD when I found them and have received NO Vet Care! The "owner" told me in front of Officer Shanes that half of the horses were given to him. We are all e-mailing and requesting copies of the paperwork showing when & where confiscated, plus Vet Records. This ACO has had warnings in the past for not caring for his animals. Conditions at the animal shelter where he works are deplorable as well. Horses have been seen at the shelter with no food or water for days. This has been an ongoing issue, But I have been the first one to make a fuss.


        • #24
          Keep it up OP, and your AC will like you as much as AC in Atlanta/Fulton liked me. (They called my boss, he had given me permission to do what I did and get TV involved.)

          And thanks Ted and his asst DGRH for posting the email.

          And OP, thank you for getting the pix. Without the pix, everyone would be saying that you were just an hysterical woman horselover, they always do.

          With the horses moved, they have probably "disposed" of them. But you have outed them so keep up the good work.

          Equinelaw is right, the pix show that the excuses aren't true. Another reason that pix are worth a lot more than just words in an email.

          Poor horses. At least you have tried to help them, unlike the others who've ignored the problem.


          • #25
            I couldn' get any of the DA's office emails to go through. I did get the one to the administrators office to go through though. Hope that was enough.
            Producing horses with gentle minds & brilliant movement!


            • #26
              I am interested in the chest w 4 whites.....where can I get more info??


              • #27
                Originally posted by Sweetfiddler View Post
                This ACO has had warnings in the past for not caring for his animals. Conditions at the animal shelter where he works are deplorable as well.
                Thanks for providing additional information. I'll do my part to help out.
                Brothers and sisters, I bid you beware
                Of giving your heart to a dog to tear.
                -Rudyard Kipling


                • #28
                  I'm outside of Memphis ( about 2 1/2 hours away) and really don't need anymore horses,
                  but I can't get the chestnut behind the tree out of my mind. I might be
                  able to find homes for all of them and pick them up if it can be worked out.


                  • #29
                    I can't help but think this would be getting more attention over in the Off Course forum.


                    • #30
                      http://fuglyhorseoftheday.blogspot.com/ just posted about this. There is a little more info and it looks like the proper authorities are getting involved. I just hope they're not too late for some of those horses. The idiot owner's explanation for the rotting horse carcasses was that they shot those horses and were using the bodies to keep the coyotes from attacking the other horses. "shakes head in utter amazement at the stupidity of some people"
                      Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.


                      • #31
                        They say they had wormed them every month for 4 months. So they "rescued" them at east 4 months ago. Which means even if they came skinny that is not why they are skinny now.

                        OP. You just saved these horses lives. By not MYOB you made noise and made enough that these horses will be saved and the owners will be sorry. Well done.


                        • #32
                          Are the others still alive? where did they move them to? I got an email from the DA that the state veterinarian was called. If the state vets moves as slowly in ALA as in GA (our agriculture dept has a horse health division), they'll all starve before someone comes out to look.

                          Again, always call a TV station right after you get pix. The TV cameras will come out and catch the guys in all their lies, and you'll have "film at 6 or 11".


                          • #33
                            Would it help to have rescues send in pictures of rescued horses at rescue, in 30 days, in 60 days, in 90 days? After 4 months those horses should just be ribby if they are hard keepers or in good shape if they are easy keepers. They do not show 4 months of care no matter what they started out as.


                            • #34
                              My God! I think you should continue to bug the media -- call the newspapers, get a reporter out and give them pictures to print. Call in on radio shows and call the TV again. Make sure someone finds out where these horses went and who is caring for them (or not!) and the DA should fire this Animal Control Officer who is NOT doing his job and he should also have charges brought against him. Don't let the good ole boys network bully you or cover this up. Enlarge those photos and plaster them on telephone poles around town or hand them out on the street. Animal control, the sheriff and all the rest are serving YOU or should be, so they are accountable to the public and that means you can demand informaiton. The more media involvement the better. Good luck!


                              • Original Poster

                                Hi Everyone, Thank You for the support in this matter. The State Vet Dr. Bishop and the State Ag Investigator Rhett Griffin were out on Tuesday to Investigate. When I spoke with Sheriff Willis today he had not heard back from them yet. I did leave a message for Mr.Griffin to call me. I will keep everyone updated on the progress. I dearly hope the chestnut is still alive!



                                • #36
                                  You go girl! Keep it up!
                                  Big Idea Eventing


                                  • Original Poster

                                    Here is the latest information on the investigation
                                    I am VERY Disappointed in the State Vet.
                                    If anyone wants to call here is the info.
                                    Dr.Bishop (334) 240-7210
                                    Mr.Griffin 800-642-7761 ext 7208 Investigator


                                    • #38
                                      It is very bizarre to me that because the dead animals were buried "that part of the investigation is closed"? What about findings regarding the fact that

                                      1. Animals were awarded to his custody that either (a) were possibly not in condition to survive and should have instead been humanely euthanized or (b) he let them deteriorate to such a state that they had to be shot.

                                      2. Dead animals were allowed to lay and rot in a pasture still inhabited by animals struggling to survive. Does this seem a healthy and responsible state of affairs?

                                      In our area we've had a recent case involving the discovery and raid on a puppy mill operating in multiple locations with over 600 that's SIX HUNDRED dogs living in squalor with terrible health problems. The head of the business had been through court multiple times and given many "second" chances despite numerous consumer complaints. We have also had problems with a county animal shelter in what must be one of the wealthiest counties in the country and it all just boggles my mind. It takes a major disaster to get the public's attention and force local government to actually DO THEIR JOBS and ENFORCE THE LAW. My apologies if this person is actually doing his best, but there is a point where benefit of the doubt just isn't good enough anymore.
                                      Fear is the rocket sauce.
                                      Jack Black


                                      • #39
                                        Sounds like the good ole boys are circling the wagons to protect one of their own. That last press article was total BS. I feel bad for the remaining horses. I hope they make it.
                                        Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.


                                        • #40
                                          That update is outrageous! Something has to be done. I'm 100% sure the horses were never in any worse condition than they are now. Cripes, they would be dead too if they got any worse! Pictures of when they first got the horses to compare to the current pictures would be real nice. The poor horses. If AC won't stand up for them and help them then who will?!?
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