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  • Proud flesh?

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    Sydney's leg hasn't made much progress in the past week, and I am wondering if she has developed proud flesh. Current appearance: https://goo.gl/photos/enPfZCVAdiSZd82q9

    Going to contact the vet in the morning, but in the meantime, has anybody tried Wonder Dust or meat tenderizer to cure proud flesh? Any other product suggestions?
    RH Queen O Anywhere "Sydney"
    2009 Sugarbush Draft mare
    Western Dressage
    Draft Mare blog

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    Yes, it does look like proud flesh. I prefer Granulex spray https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DHGM408...W57K1W0CMNMRQP to Wonder Dust, but I've had decent results with both. I find that if you use Wonder Dust, it works best if you put ointment on a gauze square (my vet recommended triple antibiotic with cortisone, which you can get at a drug store or grocery store, but Novalsan or something is ok too) and put the Wonder Dust on the ointment rather than trying to shake it onto the wound directly.

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      #3
      My BO is using Granulex on her mare that has a wound with proud flesh, and she isn't seeing much improvement. I know every horse heals differently, but I was thinking of trying something other than Granulex. I was also hoping to find something that I could pick up locally and start using ASAP.
      RH Queen O Anywhere "Sydney"
      2009 Sugarbush Draft mare
      Western Dressage
      Draft Mare blog

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      • #4
        When my horse developed proud flesh in a wound on his chest, we scrubbed the proud flesh and sprayed it with Wonderdust. That stuff is amazing -- it just ate the proud flesh and the wound healed completely without a scar.
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        • #5
          I have had great luck with Equaide.
          http://www.equaide.com/?gclid=CPuhlN...FQ-maQoddsUFBQ

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          • #6
            The wound looks much like my mare's at that stage While I used Derma-Gel, I did wrap - Derma-Gel, then a Telfa pad, wrapped with that elastic cause.Then I put on gamgee and finally wrapped with vet-wrap....left it on for three days and did the same again. The moistness, the lack of oxygen, and slight pressure have made it heal with no proud flesh. Each time it is a lot smaller than before.
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            • #7
              I have used various products on proud flesh over the years, but Animax ointment has really helped my horses the most. It's a prescription my vet gave me.
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                #8
                Originally posted by saultgirl View Post
                When my horse developed proud flesh in a wound on his chest, we scrubbed the proud flesh and sprayed it with Wonderdust. That stuff is amazing -- it just ate the proud flesh and the wound healed completely without a scar.
                Did you use anything else with the wonder dust? I've read a few testimonials on here that talk about mixing it with an antibacterial cream. Same with meat tenderizer.
                RH Queen O Anywhere "Sydney"
                2009 Sugarbush Draft mare
                Western Dressage
                Draft Mare blog

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                • #9
                  I had good luck using Wonderdust a few years back. Had a wound high up on the inside of my mare's hind leg that kept forming proud flesh. The vet cut it back a couple of times, and we were using a combination antibiotic and cortisone cream, and making no progress. Tried the Wonderdust at the suggestion of an experienced friend of mine, and it healed up fast and clean after that.

                  She has a thin line of a scar where that injury was, but it's nowhere near as obvious as the huge lumpy blemish that the vet had predicted.
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                  • #10
                    This really sounds super redneck, but I've had fabulous results with Adolf's meat tenderizer. I mixed with KY jelly because it's what I had on hand for cleaning sheaths, but I'd think antibiotic ointment would work just as well.

                    Last time I used it, I really expected that I would have to call the vet out to come debride, but had just moved and didn't have a vet yet. Figured I'd use meat tenderizer for a few days until I was able to track down a few names and get someone out, but that's all it took to *drastically* reduce. Worked so well I never had to have someone out. In maybe 7 days the proud flesh was gone and in another week the wound was healed.

                    Cheap and easy and available.

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                    • #11
                      I use either Silver nitrate sticks or Prouds Off Ointment. The silver nitrate sticks work really well, but they sting quite a bit, so maybe not the best idea for a hind leg, depending on your mare. The plus side to these is you usually only have to use them once or twice maybe and bam, no more hyper granulation.

                      I got the Prouds Off ointment from my vet years ago and it also works really well. And it's pretty cheap.

                      It's best to get right on it, because the hyper granulation will continue/get worse. My horse had a bite wound that ended up with a ton of proud flesh that had to be excised by the vet and then stitched up. Yuck.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Simkie View Post
                        This really sounds super redneck, but I've had fabulous results with Adolf's meat tenderizer. I mixed with KY jelly because it's what I had on hand for cleaning sheaths, but I'd think antibiotic ointment would work just as well.

                        Last time I used it, I really expected that I would have to call the vet out to come debride, but had just moved and didn't have a vet yet. Figured I'd use meat tenderizer for a few days until I was able to track down a few names and get someone out, but that's all it took to *drastically* reduce. Worked so well I never had to have someone out. In maybe 7 days the proud flesh was gone and in another week the wound was healed.

                        Cheap and easy and available.
                        Did you only use the meat tenderizer until the proud flesh came off? And did you have any issues with it harming the healthy tissue of the injury? After reading a bit more on meat tenderizer I'm wondering if Wonder Dust might be safer, though it seems to have much more mixed results.
                        RH Queen O Anywhere "Sydney"
                        2009 Sugarbush Draft mare
                        Western Dressage
                        Draft Mare blog

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Draftmare View Post
                          Did you only use the meat tenderizer until the proud flesh came off? And did you have any issues with it harming the healthy tissue of the injury? After reading a bit more on meat tenderizer I'm wondering if Wonder Dust might be safer, though it seems to have much more mixed results.
                          I used the meat tenderizer until the granulation bed was even with the normal surrounding tissue. I had zero issues with it harming healthy tissue.

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                          • #14
                            Mix meat tenderizer with cheap drug store antibiotic ointment and apply often to the wound. This will help heal and will dispose of the proud flesh.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by shezabrazenmare View Post
                              Mix meat tenderizer with cheap drug store antibiotic ointment and apply often to the wound. This will help heal and will dispose of the proud flesh.
                              What kind of ratio or consistency should I have when I mix the two?
                              RH Queen O Anywhere "Sydney"
                              2009 Sugarbush Draft mare
                              Western Dressage
                              Draft Mare blog

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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by Draftmare View Post
                                What kind of ratio or consistency should I have when I mix the two?
                                Thick paste

                                I wrap over it, if possible, changing the bandage every other day.

                                If in a location where wrapping isn't doable, using Swat as the base might be worthwhile...

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                                • #17
                                  I used the Equiaide as well and was really pleased with it!
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Simkie View Post
                                    Thick paste

                                    I wrap over it, if possible, changing the bandage every other day.

                                    If in a location where wrapping isn't doable, using Swat as the base might be worthwhile...
                                    Thankfully it is a wrappable area, I have been having to wrap daily. Between her sweating due to the heat, and I suspect her pulling on the bandage, I haven't been able to make one last more than 24 hours.

                                    Originally posted by Cindy's Warmbloods View Post
                                    I used the Equiaide as well and was really pleased with it!
                                    In hind sight if I had known that this wound was going to last so long, I would have ordered Equiade. At the time I was wanting products that I could get my hands on quickly to get things healing quickly.

                                    I did find a local store that carries Manuka honey, which I may switch to once the proud flesh is under control. The steroid is almost gone, and doesn't seem to be doing much of anything this time around anyway.
                                    RH Queen O Anywhere "Sydney"
                                    2009 Sugarbush Draft mare
                                    Western Dressage
                                    Draft Mare blog

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                                    • #19
                                      I have had good luck with Granulex and daily wrapping.

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                                      • #20
                                        There was a school horse in MS that ended up with a golf ball sized proud flesh on his neck. The person in charge, who had actually missed it, told me to put liquid Ivermectin on it and dribble some in his feed. It healed within a week.

                                        I asked a Vet up here about doing that and he said that you could use the Ivermectin paste, too. It works well. I used Swat to keep the flies off, since they contribute to the cause.

                                        Good luck!
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