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  • How much Ultium do you feed?

    I am going to switch my horse over to Ultium. According to their website, he should get 8 lbs a day. This sounds like a lot to me! He is 1200 lb QH/Belgian draft, and usually eats less than the other horses (mostly TBs) in the barn. He gets worked about 1-1.5hrs/day, 5 days a week. I emailed Purina and am waiting for their response.
    If you feed Ultium, how much are you feeding? More or less than the label?

  • #2
    When I fed Ultium, I always fed and still do w/ other feeds, I fed/feed less. They have free choice hay for the most part and I feel more hay less grain. They only get grained once a day, but are not in work.

    I have a 1200lb QH gelding and if he was in work and fit, I don't think I'd feed him more than 4 lbs/day, 2 lbs twice a day. And that would be about the same as I'd feed the pasture puffs and broodmares, too.

    Remember to gradually switch him over to the new feed.

    Those big numbers on the bag are to get you to buy more feed. I like it last to awhile personally and don't feel they need that much. I currently go through 150 lbs of feed about every week, but that's feeding 12 horses.
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    • #3
      I fed Ultium for weight gain last year and fed 4.5 pounds per day. It weighs about 1 lb per quart. Worked great. I would feed 2/3 the volume that you are feeding now (current feed) and see if you're looking to maintain your horse's current weight.

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      • #4
        None. Both horses lost weight on it when we tried it last year. Lots of horses did. Hired a nutritionist to come out and she had us switch to something horses could better digest. Nice to see others have had luck with it, though.
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          #5
          Originally posted by Raison d'etre View Post
          None. Both horses lost weight on it when we tried it last year. Lots of horses did. Hired a nutritionist to come out and she had us switch to something horses could better digest. Nice to see others have had luck with it, though.
          My horse is a pretty easy keeper in terms of grain requirements, so I'm not worried about weight loss. I'm worried about giving him too much!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Etcher1
            Doesn't Ultium have tryptophan in it? Or am I thinking of another feed?
            yes, it does.




            I feed 6 lbs. a day. The max for my horse's weight is 6.8 lbs. a day. I'm feeding for weight gain as well.


            The amount on the bag is the max you should feed. You shouldn't feed any more than that, but you can feed less.

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            • #7
              The bags are so damn confusing. One of our feed store owners told me that what WE, mortals, consider average work....is the feed company's definition of an all day trail ride.

              I wouldn't personally feed any horse feed that I had to feed over 5 pounds a day. I have a 19 year old TB who only gets 3 pounds of Blue Seal Vintage Performance LS and he looks great. He's in fair amount of work, but if I followed the bag instructions...I'd be feeding him 9 plus pounds per day.

              Just not healthy for a horse to eat that much grain IMO.

              If my horse needed more weight after 5 pounds, I would probably supplement with alfalfa cubes, more hay, something like Envision or Cool Calories...but not more grain.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Raison d'etre View Post
                None. Both horses lost weight on it when we tried it last year. Lots of horses did. Hired a nutritionist to come out and she had us switch to something horses could better digest. Nice to see others have had luck with it, though.
                There's a local barn that didn't have luck with their horses on it either. It has a high oil content that may not work well for some horses. But if you're feeding amplify it's nearly the same andmuch cheaper.

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                  #9
                  I'm going to be feeding it because I like the combination of low starch and high fat. My guy does better with lower starch.
                  Tryptophan is an amino acid, which is also present in rice and oats, so I would think it is in most grains!

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                  • #10
                    wow, that seems excessive. I have 2 horses on Ultium, and they're both maintaining their weight on high-quality free choice hay and the amount listed below. I use a coffee can for measuring - I've never actually weighed the Ultium, so the weight below is what's listed on the coffee can. Not sure what the weight ratio of coffee to Ultium is.

                    Horse 1: 14 year-old Arab in moderate work, weighs about 900 lbs. Gets about a pound a day.

                    Horse 2: 25-year-old retired warmblood/draft cross, weighs about 1400 lbs. Gets about 2 pounds a day.

                    There are 3 other horses at my barn on Ultium, all retired and in their 20s, and they get the same or slightly less than my retiree. Everyone looks great.
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                    • #11
                      Mine gets 5lbs per day and thats it..no grain or anything else and then free choice hay.
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                      • #12
                        It gets even more confusing if you use the calculator here:

                        http://horse.purinamills.com/product...calculator.asp

                        My performance horse in moderate work apparently needs 11 lbs of Ultium a day, along with only 13 lbs of hay.

                        Or I could give her 14 pounds of Strategy, with 13 lbs of hay.

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                        • #13
                          2qt am. 2 qt pm.

                          i havent ever had to change it regradles of the amount of work shes in. and we were doing 4+ hours 6 days a week this summer. now were doing 1 hour a day if were lucky. and maybe 4 x a week.

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                          • #14
                            FYI: Ultium is heavy. When I was starting to switch over, I weighed out a 1/2 lb. and it was about 2 handfuls. In the buckets I use to carry the feed around in, I can't even fit 3 lbs. of the other feed in it. I put 3 lbs. of Ultium in the same bucket, and could fit another pound in there if I wanted to. So if you don't weigh it, you might be feeding more than you think you are.

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                            • #15
                              Our 1300# hard keeper got 12# a day in 2 feeds, plus hay and pasture. He's now looking great so we're cutting him down to 6# a day
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                              • #16
                                The terms "light work", "moderate work", "performance horse" are all very subjective. The company does not provide you with a definition of the terms used.

                                While we like to say that our horses are in "heavy" or "moderate" work, it's probably just not true. Consider horses and mules that are used 8 hrs per day in the logging industry. Now that's heavy work.

                                This is how I personally interpret (and I could be completely wrong) the feed guidelines, and is totally subjective as well:

                                "Heavy": work horses, steeple chasers, race horses.

                                “Moderate": Event horses and Field Hunters (during hunt season) and probably endurance horses as well.

                                "Light" Hunters, Jumpers and dressage horses.

                                "Active Pleasure": Trail horses and lesson horses (depending on the amount of hrs worked)

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                                  #17
                                  Actually, they do give definitions of light, moderate, and heavy performance. If you click on "lifestyle of the horse" there's a dropdown menu.
                                  I guess my guy is somewhere between light and moderate. I'll talk to my trainer, but I'm thinking 6 lbs of feed for him. Of course Purina hasn't gotten back to me.

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                                  • #18
                                    Actually, they do give definitions of light, moderate, and heavy performance. If you click on "lifestyle of the horse" there's a dropdown menu.
                                    Never noticed that before. Thanks

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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by Seven-up View Post
                                      FYI: Ultium is heavy. When I was starting to switch over, I weighed out a 1/2 lb. and it was about 2 handfuls. In the buckets I use to carry the feed around in, I can't even fit 3 lbs. of the other feed in it. I put 3 lbs. of Ultium in the same bucket, and could fit another pound in there if I wanted to. So if you don't weigh it, you might be feeding more than you think you are.

                                      You must have HUGE hands! My hand holds 1/4 cup. I weighed Ultium in a 1 qt cup and got a smidge over 1 lb. Actually, darn near every grain I ever weighed is close to 1 lb per qt. Some are a little more, others a little less.

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                                      • #20
                                        Tiny hands. I'm barely over 5' tall. I meant both hands together, and overflowing w/feed. My scientific hand measurement might be a bit off, but the pounds in the bucket is pretty much on. The other feed I use is not high quality, so it's probably a lot of fluff. At any rate, I was surprised how heavy the Ultium is compared to how much space it takes up.

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