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Oldenburg gelding- Long term soundness?

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    How old is this horse? Does he have actual papers? How many owners has he had, if you know? Fleshing out the backstory would really help here. So would video of him going to the left. Can he canter? Both ways? Like to see video.

    He moves like he's got a dropped hip and/or some type of injury up in the hip or pelvis on the left. The whole leg swings awkwardly from hip down....that's not out of condition. Suppose it could be related to a stifle injury? Whatever, he does not pick that whole leg up normally to bring it forward. He's way way asymmetrical in movement behind, going around on the outside of that left hoof too, not weighting the hoof squarly. Something is wrong.

    Personally never seen bumps like this on the outside of the pasterns but they could very well be related to the asymmetrical movement and the stress in joints it creates, just look at the rotation in that left "ankle" every step.

    Learned long ago to be suspicious of long lay offs in a horses career. Rarely get the truth, especially if they have been standing around under different owners. It's not that they deliberately lie, they just don't know or repeat what they were told when they bought it. Question for OP, did previous owner have him the whole three years he has been standing around? Or was he standing around for some time before she bought him? 3 years is a loooong time to keep one that intimidates you, those usually get resold in a year or less. If he was standing when she bought him, she may not have been told the truth,

    You say this one was a twin? Did the other survive? Multiple births are not the cute events they can be in other species, it's not a plus. Suppose there could be a birth defect going on here.

    On on the lease idea? Not without a PPE. Why you might ask? For one thing save sister from heartache if he goes unsound with work (or more unsound, IMO he's not really that sound now). It could save you a bundle on treating with joint injections, Adequan, Legend etc to try to fix this if it's not fixable. And it could save you even more if you return him and the owner says he's worse and you broke him...I know, she is nice and woukd never do anything like that. Happens all the time.

    I'd just pass. Poor guy.
    When opportunity knocks it's wearing overalls and looks like work.

    The horse world. Two people. Three opinions.


      Definitely not sound now. Has your sister come up with a game plan?
      "Absent a correct diagnosis, medicine is poison, surgery is trauma and alternative therapy is witchcraft" A. Kent Allen


        Originally posted by JB View Post
        The long toe look has been around a long time, both in Hunters and in racing stock. Someone at some point thought that would encourage a more sweeping and longer stride, respectively. BS. No, it doesn't make biomechanical sense, but that doesn't stop craptastic farriers from doing all sorts of things that don't make biomechanical sense
        FWIW, the long toe (especially in front) was never about a long sweeping stride in the sense of easing break-over. Rather, in racing, the idea was to extend the hoof so that the same extension got you a couple more inches forward of grab for the next stride. That's never been what people trying tot improve their placing in the hack cared about.
        The armchair saddler
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          It's too bad there are so many questions about this horse because he looks like a good guy in an attractive (if oversized) package. If it weren't on my nickel, I'd love the job of rehabbing him and seeing what I had at the end.
          The armchair saddler
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            Originally posted by mvp View Post
            It's too bad there are so many questions about this horse because he looks like a good guy in an attractive (if oversized) package. If it weren't on my nickel, I'd love the job of rehabbing him and seeing what I had at the end.
            Boyle Heights Kid 1998 16.1h OTTB Dark Bay Gelding
            Quiet Miracle 2010 16.1h OTTB Bay Gelding
            "Once you go off track, you never go back!"


              Originally posted by findeight View Post
              Personally never seen bumps like this on the outside of the pasterns but they could very well be related to the asymmetrical movement and the stress in joints it creates, just look at the rotation in that left "ankle" every step.
              I have, and I really think this is sidebone. (Essentially I believe you are right on, but it has a name.) Not uncommon in heavy warmbloods and drafts, can be brought about by poor shoeing and imbalance. Sadly not rehab-able.

              where are we going, and why am I in this hand basket?