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Should I add protein for horse that needs muscle?- update post 104

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  • Should I add protein for horse that needs muscle?- update post 104

    My pony (actually not a pony, but that's his COTH moniker) came to me rather thin but is actually an easy keeper. He put on weight quite quickly, but is still not really "filled out" as much as I'd like to see, although he has a hay belly.

    Obviously steady work, but since he puts on weight so easily I have him on hay only (Timothy and Orchard) with a supplement (Sho Glo, plus Vita Calm right now). He can tend to be a bit anxious- should I add protein to his diet to help him gain muscle? What are some good sources of protein? I do not have a ration balancer readily available, but I can drive to get it or order it in if needed.

    (yes, he's been wormed several times)
    Last edited by Ambrey; May. 11, 2009, 09:14 AM.

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    Yep. I would- maybe one of the amino acid sups first. Or maybe have some alfalfa into his diet- I think that's fairly high in protein.
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      Tri Amino by Uckele is the way to go!

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        Originally posted by LMH View Post
        Tri Amino by Uckele is the way to go!
        Alfalfa is high in protein but is also very calorie dense, I was hoping for some way to add the protein without shortening his munching time! We have no turnout so hay is the closest they get to grazing.

        I'm going to check this stuff out, thanks!

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          There will be others that will sing the song of praises of Tri Amino!

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            Apparently Uckele is the only source, though. It sounds like exactly what I need, though! Thanks again!

            Have you all that use it noticed a difference?

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              HUGE difference!

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                Good answer, I already ordered 2 buckets of the stuff

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                  Originally posted by Ambrey View Post
                  Apparently Uckele is the only source, though. It sounds like exactly what I need, though! Thanks again!

                  Have you all that use it noticed a difference?
                  I've used Pure Lysine with great success too... the only difference between the two is that Tri Amino has two other added amino acids. Pure Lysine is pretty cheap too (like under $ 0.20/day). Worked wonders for me. Just started Gus on the Uckele product, so not sure if I'll notice a greater difference or not.
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                    Yep, there are other sources of just lysine, literally a few pennies a day. But grass hays tend to be a bit low in methionine too, and that is what Tri-Amino is good for. 1 scoop is 10gm lysine, 5gm methionine, and 2gm threonine - the top 3 limiting amino acids.
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                      VitaFlex puts out Pure Lysine and it works amazingly. I do three scoops a day, app. 12g per serving. It is one of the most important building blocks needed for putting on muscle and for help with sore muscles. Lots of articles on it lately including the Horse Journal. Inexpensive too.

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                        good for an older dressage horse? he is 15 and thriving, but I assume it would not hurt to help him boost/maintain his muscle?

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                          Try Crazy Horse Tack for Tri Amino-shipping was $8.95. When Uckele 1/2 off shipping sale ends, this may be a good option.

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                            Im curious to who else has used the Lysine, and there thoughts on it...? I am looking into it... It is definitly cost effective.

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                              I use lysine on all of mine, as they get mainly grass hay. The youngsters are on a ration balancer with some lysine added, and the two riding-age mares get a 14% protein feed with lysine, and when they are actually being ridden they get a bit more alfalfa. I take away some of the alfalfa when they are not being ridden because they will both get chunky.

                              I noticed a big difference in my mare especially when I added the lysine. With my 2.5-yo, I noticed more of a difference when I add some extra ration balancer when he starts to look under muscled. So it really depends on the horse if the lysine is the issue, or if more protein is needed.

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                                Dang, I did a google search and didn't come up with anyone for the tri-amino!

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                                  Have you considered a riding program that will build his muscle and remove his hay belly?

                                  Over feeding protein only esults in smeely urine. Find a suitable exercise program.
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                                    But if you look at her diet it IS likely lysine and possibly methionine deficient.

                                    IF you work without sufficient protein there is no fuel to build muscle

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                                      Originally posted by merrygoround View Post
                                      Have you considered a riding program that will build his muscle and remove his hay belly?

                                      Over feeding protein only esults in smeely urine. Find a suitable exercise program.
                                      Yes, certainly, you need a good work program to build work muscles.

                                      But it should be accepted that a pasture puff has to go around looking like he's in less than no work due to a noticable lack of muscle

                                      It's not just about total protein. Certainly, excess proteins are peed out. But what can too easily happen is the horse eats excess crude protein, which is not cost effective at all, nor is it necessarily going to help the muscles. Crude Protein is a function of nitrogen as well as amino acids.

                                      Grass and grass hays are notoriously deficient in lysine, and to some degree, methionine. A horse can be free choicing 9% grass hay and get WAY more total protein than he needs, but be deficient in lysine, and have the lack of muscling (appropriate to his work) to show for it.

                                      And even if the horse is getting just the right amount of lysine for his pasture puff-ness, he'll have a very hard time building muscle appropriate for his work if you don't add at least a few grams more.
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                                        Originally posted by BKDressage View Post
                                        Im curious to who else has used the Lysine, and there thoughts on it...? I am looking into it... It is definitly cost effective.
                                        I started with Pure Lysine and saw a noticable difference in my OTTB mare's topline, without any work. Once I switched to Tri-Amino I saw even more of a difference, this time all over her body. She actually lost her A-frame look to her butt and rounded out.
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