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    Sudden severe lameness

    Hello. This is quite a bad start in the New Year, but yeah. My horse was playful, strong and as sound as a horse can be yesterday, only to find him crippled, depressed and horribly lame today. He is lame on his left front leg, points the leg forward, and doesn't put full weight on it all the time, but sometimes he does. His right front is normal and cold, but he has heat in his left leg from hoof to knee. But I think his hoof is the hotest. No obvious swelling, maybe a bit around his fetlock, but not noticeable. I think it is worse on hard ground, because I noticed it when I took him out of his stall. I checked his hoof, nothing unusual, no wounds. But he does try to put the leg down when I hold it up. In walk, lameness is severe, and he is definitely in pain. I made sure he is in soft bedding, and now eating myself out of worries. Called my vet, and he is out for holidays, and as it is late where I am, I can't get another until tomorrow. I also took off 90% of horse's grain, to be safer. He will be in his box. I am so stressed. What could cause such a severe lameness in one day? My first thought was laminitis, but he is fine with his other leg, and it is cold. Any ideas/suggestions? Vet will be out in roughly 15 hours, and I cannot stay calm knowing my boy is in so much pain. He cannot turn in circle, is crippled, and when walking, he has a huge head bob, putting all the weight on his right front. But otherwise, he is interested of his surroundings, happy and neighing when I bring him hay... Please help. I'm terrified! This was anything, but expected!

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    Originally posted by Spa:) View Post
    Hello. This is quite a bad start in the New Year, but yeah. My horse was playful, strong and as sound as a horse can be yesterday, only to find him crippled, depressed and horribly lame today. He is lame on his left front leg, points the leg forward, and doesn't put full weight on it all the time, but sometimes he does. His right front is normal and cold, but he has heat in his left leg from hoof to knee. But I think his hoof is the hotest. No obvious swelling, maybe a bit around his fetlock, but not noticeable. I think it is worse on hard ground, because I noticed it when I took him out of his stall. I checked his hoof, nothing unusual, no wounds. But he does try to put the leg down when I hold it up. In walk, lameness is severe, and he is definitely in pain. I made sure he is in soft bedding, and now eating myself out of worries. Called my vet, and he is out for holidays, and as it is late where I am, I can't get another until tomorrow. I also took off 90% of horse's grain, to be safer. He will be in his box. I am so stressed. What could cause such a severe lameness in one day? My first thought was laminitis, but he is fine with his other leg, and it is cold. Any ideas/suggestions? Vet will be out in roughly 15 hours, and I cannot stay calm knowing my boy is in so much pain. He cannot turn in circle, is crippled, and when walking, he has a huge head bob, putting all the weight on his right front. But otherwise, he is interested of his surroundings, happy and neighing when I bring him hay... Please help. I'm terrified! This was anything, but expected!
    Abscess. Just went through this before Christmas.

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      #3
      Agree this sounds like classic presentation of a hoof abcess.
      If you cannot get your vet out your farrier may be able to locate the abcess or it may erupt itself through the coronary band.
      Horse will get instant relief once the abcess pressure is relieved.
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        #4
        Sounds like it could be an abscess to me, too. Definitely doesn't sound like laminitis.

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          #5
          Abscess. Agree that if vet can't come out the farrier may be able to find it. If you feel helpless and want it give him some relief, you could soak the foot in warm water with Epsom salts to help draw the abscess out. If it's under the shoe this won't help very much but if not it can definitely speed things along.
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            #6
            Another vote for abscess! Classic symptoms!
            "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all".

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              #7
              I would say abcess, except...

              I just went through this. Exact same presentation, exact same leg. Figured out after narrowing things down that the issue was long term caudal heel pain that presented so severely after some sort of trauma (mare was barefoot). Some spiffy custom shoes and she's good as new.

              The other options on the table were abcess and coffin bone fracture.
              Do not spoil what you have by desiring what you have not. Remember that what you have now was once among the many things that you only hoped for.

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                #8
                I would also assume an abscess.
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                Why must you chastise my brilliant idea with facts and logic? **picks up toys (and wine) and goes home**

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                  #9
                  Another vote for abcess....
                  Except....
                  Several years ago I had a 3 yr old that presented exactly this way. Hers was a displaced, grade 3 fracture of her ulna.

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                    #10
                    Same symptoms, treated for abscess, turned out to be a fractured navicular bone.

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                      #11
                      Same thing, even same time of year, mine ended up being an old bone chip off the fetlock from which the rough edges had finally worn through the cartilage. I had a good outcome but I hope yours is just the abscess.
                      It's just grass and water till it hits the ground.

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                        #12
                        My first thought when my horse is suddenly dead lame and there is no sign of anything else going on is an abscess.

                        Not saying there are not other things it could be (as has been stated above and I could list a couple others), but the most common is an abscess.

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                          #13
                          My first thought was abscess as well. I would treat as such until your vet is back from vacation and if not better have him out to take a look. You could call your farrier out in the meantime to take a look.
                          come what may

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                            #14
                            My husband, who is a vet, says "When you hear hoofbeats, think horses, not zebras."

                            It does not sound like your horse had swelling in his leg, and if his hoof was hot, my guess is that it is a hoof issue such as an abscess or stone bruise. Hoof testers should reveal whether or not it is in the hoof. Your farrier should be able to put hoof testers on the horse, and if he thinks it is an abscess, he may be able to help open it up.

                            Good luck, I hope it quickly resolves!

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                              #15
                              Abscess.

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                                #16
                                Hoping for an update. OP, how is your horse doing?

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                                  #17
                                  Another vote for abscess, but hopefully you've seen the vet now. If your vet agrees with abscess, this is my favorite way to deal with it:

                                  Buy- green epsom salt gel (easier to work with than crystals) and diapers. Get bigger ones than you think you need for your horse's hooves. Like two sizes bigger.

                                  Squirt green gel into diaper, maybe rub some over cornet band (my mare's usually come out at the heel so I focus attention there), "diaper" hoof, wrap hoof in vet wrap (being careful not to wrap too tight over the pastern), apply lots of duct tape over vet wrap, particularly over the bottom of the hoof. I usually do a whole roll of vet wrap and 5 layers of duct or gorilla tape. Continue re-diapering for a couple days after the abscess bursts to keep the area clean.

                                  If you can't find the gel use a big handful of epsom salt and a little water to moisten it. This works much better for me than trying to soak.

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                                    #18
                                    I agree, hoof abcess. Just went thru this with my young mare. She torqued her shoe and stepped on the clip, bruised her sole and developed an abcess.

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                                      Hello everyone. Been to him yesterday prior to vet visit, found him the same, if not a bit worse. But he is happy, neighing for carrots, glad to see me opening his box. 10 minutes before vet arrival(not my current vet), I speak to him on phone, describe the horse - he says laminitis. Later when he comes, he says horse doesn't have it, but more like a bruised sole, because I told him how I saw a horse put a hoof on a wrong place, but no way it could cause so much pain. Later vet talks to my farrier, tells him to put on bar shoes and something else, like pads. And I also heard him say hoof is not way too hot. I ask him ten times if it is laminitis, he says no. And horse is still pointing his left front, putting weight on it, but cannot turn, totally struggles. Like he only turns around with his hinds. I'm still worried tons. Vet did not mention abscess. :/ He gave him bute, strict box rest, and we added extra bedding, so it will be much deeper. He also said horse is fat, so it is another reason for me to worry. And he said horse has soft thin soles. :/ Can't wait to see how good/bad he is today, and will keep you informed. Farrier will come to see him too. I still hope for an abscess. Thank you for your support! <3

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                                        #20
                                        Did the vet take X-rays? My mare was three-legged lame one spring day last year. My vet came right out and we did X-rays - she was having an acute laminitis flare-up (I had taken her to the vets the previous fall as she was somewhat "off" - X-rays back then confirmed a slight rotation of the coffin bone - mechanical and not metabolic as all tests came back normal). I would tell your vet you want X-rays if they weren't already taken and show them to your farrier. My vets and farrier are in close contact so we were able to get my mare sound.

                                        Hoping it's just an abscess with your guy!!!

                                        (Should add that bute typically doesn't help with an abscess - didn't with my old guy - the abscess just need to blow which will offer a ton of relief)
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