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Who has seen/used arenas with fiber in them?

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  • Who has seen/used arenas with fiber in them?

    I have been building a new riding complex over the last few months and now I am planning out the footing for the indoor riding arena (80x200). There is a good solid base going in and then sand will be added. I am really interested in adding some type of fiber to the sand for stability. There seem to be quite a few different types of fiber. Which ones have you used or seen and which ones do you like better? Where did you get the fiber from?

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  • #2
    I used to board at a place that had FIBAR in the indoor and it was EXCELLENT. Loved the footing.

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    • #3
      UCK Fibar (that Simkie) mentioned is awful for jumping... too slippery. It's also a pain to maintain and it breaks down, gets dusty and has to be replaced after 5 - 10 years, depending on how hard it gets used.

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      • #4
        I must agree with Simkie. The barn I used to board at had FIBAR footing and it was wonderful! No dust whatsoever, even with 7 + riders at a time in a fully enclosed indoor arena! I never found it to be slippery at all. And it never seemed to get soupy even in tons of rain in the outdoor.

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        • #5
          Thumbs down on FIBAR, for the reasons others have stated.

          My favorite footing is shredded rubber w/sand. Only issue is that it might wash away... wait.. this is for your indoor, yes? Then I think you're golden.

          I googled some sites for you
          http://www.rubbermulch.com/arena_footing.htm
          http://www.footingsunlimited.com/hybrid-footings/
          http://www.rubberecycle.com/surefoot.asp

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          • #6
            My friend's barn just got new footing in the indoor with some sort of fibre mixed in. It's white, that's all I know.... kinda freaks me out because it looks like little white pinworms or something, but it's not at all dusty and seems to hold up very well. (: I think it's some type of rubber...
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            • #7
              I have ridden on a fibar arena and loved it! Did not board there so couldn't say much about maintenance. I do know they run specials from time to time... the pricing is reasonable enough that I am probably going to foot a 60ft round pen with it.

              I have also ridden on Nike footing... not sure if this is still available as it was about 10 years ago. It was great to ride on and the horses seemed to love it. It did have a tendency to clump up along the edges of the arena and had to be drug regularly.
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                #8
                Thanks so far for the information and links.

                I am not interested in Fibar. It is a wood based products and I prefer sand. I have already set on the sand I am using. I would like to also put in some type if fiber that is like felt or shredded carpet like. I have seen one type at the HITS shows and a few people with it as well. I was hoping to find a few different types and peoples thoughts on them.

                I may also put in some crumb rubber and yes it is an indoor so it can not wash away...
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                • #9
                  FYI on the rubber...it tends to suck the moisture out of the sand and makes the arena very dry. At least this was my experience at my old barn.

                  My current arena uses a wood fiber (which I think you said you don't like), I think it is tanbark?? This is mixed in with the sand, but not infused too much. You can hardly even tell it is in there. We mostly ride dressage in the arena, and it has been the best footing I have ever ridden in. I have also done some light jumping, but I haven't had problems with slipping.

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                  • #10
                    OP.. I know they're nowhere near you, but please contact
                    http://lawtonadams.com/

                    For information about your sand/ fiber mixture. It's a bit dicey to maintain, a bit waxy so the harrow/ rake depth is of the upmost importance. Also, if you use the wrong type of sand it can shear off the toes of barefoot horses... right down to the white line!

                    Lawton can at least give you a good head's start.

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                      #11
                      thanks again...

                      Here is a link to the product I am considering. I am looking for other ones simular or someone with experience with this product itself.

                      As for rubber and taking the moisture out. I am not sure, if I do ad rubber it will be perhaps this coming spring once I see how what ever fiber I choose holds up. I was also considering putting in an oil so there would be close to 0% dust and much easier to maintain. The fiber would be more for the stability of the sand rather than holding in moisture.

                      http://www.wcfootings.com/other_items/posatrac.shtml and

                      http://www.ridingmagazine.com/riding...astfooting.htm
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Faiths CremelloWB View Post
                        Thanks so far for the information and links.

                        I am not interested in Fibar. It is a wood based products and I prefer sand. I have already set on the sand I am using.
                        It sounds like you don't really know what Fibar is.

                        Fibar is sand + wood.

                        We had rubber + sand in the indoor before the Fibar, and the Fibar was superior footing.

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                        • #13
                          Fibre of any type = dust down the road.
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                            Thanks Simkie

                            I have read up on Fibar. It is a personal preference of mine to just not want wood in my arena. I have read quite a bit about different wood products added to sand (Fibar) being one of them and it is just not for me. I prefer to use a felt/fiber material as I have rode on a few places with it and loved it.

                            True Equibrt. I guess finding one that has a history of lasting 10+ years would be best. Which is why I am hoping to find a few people that have used different products and can voice opinions on them from actual experience.
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                            • #15
                              The indoor at my trainers barn has a sand & polyfil fiber mix... I know it sounds weird and even looks weird at first but it is SUPER soft.

                              Trust me, I got unloaded the other night and hit the ground hard, but SURPRISE! no bruise, no soreness, cushioned fall... and I landed on my hip of all places.


                              It looks like it snowed in our indoor when they add more, but once it gets harrowed in with the sand, its super nice! Its dust free and doesnt absorb all the water when we water the sand to keep it nice in fluffy in there. It also retains some of the warmth from the over head lights so it acts like an insulator too.

                              I have no idea what its actually called, but it looks like polyfil... which is what they stuff pillows with now.

                              for our outdoor, we have crushed stone/Bluestone/sand mix, so different ride out there.
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                                #16
                                Hey thanks Empressive Award. Does it look like this stuff? http://www.jumpswest.com/barn_footing.php

                                Could you ask the BO the name of it?
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                                • #17
                                  There is a company in the North East, possibly in NY, that makes a wax, fiber footing that is super awesome. It's what they used the National this year in Syracuse. I can not for the life of me remember the name of the company or the footing, but it was really nice. It's also the footing used at the NY state fair grounds. They make one for indoor and outdoor rings.

                                  Found the link! http://www.northbrookfarms.com/store...48&catid=19657
                                  Last edited by ponyjumper4; Dec. 12, 2008, 02:19 PM. Reason: link to footing

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                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by Faiths CremelloWB View Post
                                    Hey thanks Empressive Award. Does it look like this stuff? http://www.jumpswest.com/barn_footing.php

                                    Could you ask the BO the name of it?

                                    Nope.... imagine taking a pillows stuffing and mixing it with sand footing. thats what it looks like. not feathers, but the synthetic cotton looking stuff.

                                    I will ask what the name of it is and where they get it from. If I can get a picture I will post also!
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                                    • #19
                                      What about shredded leather footing? Its very nice, not too dusty and popular in the New England area for indoors. It does break down to a soil like composition after a long time.
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                                        Footing

                                        Originally posted by ponyjumper4 View Post
                                        There is a company in the North East, possibly in NY, that makes a wax, fiber footing that is super awesome. It's what they used the National this year in Syracuse. I can not for the life of me remember the name of the company or the footing, but it was really nice. It's also the footing used at the NY state fair grounds. They make one for indoor and outdoor rings.
                                        I second this one. This footing is terrific!!! Even the horses with bad feet love it.
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