• Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.



Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.

Outright inflammatory, vulgar, harassing, malicious or otherwise inappropriate statements and criminal charges unsubstantiated by a reputable news source or legal documentation will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 1/26/16)
See more
See less

beet pulp, shredded, rolled or pellet?

  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • beet pulp, shredded, rolled or pellet?

    What, if any is the difference in fiber content or benefits of the various forms beet pulp comes in?
    save lives...spay/neuter/geld

  • #2
    Once you pellet things, the fiber length generally shrivels, so I wouldn't use that for added long-stem fiber.

    The shredded will do for that.

    I have not heard of rolled though!
    The CoTH CYA - please consult w/your veterinarian under any and all circumstances. - ET


    • #3
      Yes, there is a difference. The fiber in the shredded beet pulp is longer & this is important to the horse's digestive system which needs the "scratch" of very long fibers to operate properly.


      • #4
        I went to the feed store yesterday and asked basically the same question, was told that it was preference....not much difference....then you need to ask plain or with molasses...I went with plain shredded


        • #5
          What is the price difference between the pelleted and the shredded PB?


          • #6
            Shredded beet pulp can be fed without soaking, but generally comes with molasses which is not desirable.


            • #7
              Originally posted by BornToRide View Post
              Shredded beet pulp can be fed without soaking, but generally comes with molasses which is not desirable.
              Sorry, I would disagree with this. Unwetted, shredded beet pulp is a big factor in choke. Folks post on here fairly often about their animals choking after feeding shreds dry.

              Shreds in commercial mixed feeds are a VERY small percentage, often have some moisture with sweetening agents like molasses in the mix. A feed mixture is not like feeding straight, dry shreds.

              We feed pellets soaked. Horses get hay, so any tickle factor is covered with hay. We feed beet pulp to increase forage, get more water into the horse.

              Around here, pellets are markedly cheaper than shredded beet pulp. Costs or savings add up over a year of purchases. Our pellets have no molasses, we don't want all that extra sweetner in our horses, no feed value. The horses here eat plain, wet beet pulp just fine. A little planning to allow enough soaking time with pellets is needed, but gets to be routine quickly. Shreds soak up much faster, which is why most folks prefer shredded. I would rather save the cash in price differences, stay with my pellets.

              I know of horses who choked when fed dry, shredded beet pulp, owners wanted to save time. Very ugly, unneccesary. Don't feed beet pulp if you don't want to soak it!! I know what the studies say, Vets behind the studies. Choke is what we see when beet pulp shreds are fed dry.


              • #8
                Originally posted by BornToRide View Post
                Shredded beet pulp can be fed without soaking, but generally comes with molasses which is not desirable.
                From what I understand, all bp has *some* molasses added in the process of creating the final form in order to keep dust down. The "plain" or "added molasses" comes from the final packaging where either some is added, or it's not. It's usually very easy to find "plain" shredded (where bp is available of course). If it does have molasses added, soak and rinse. If you're feeding bp at all to a metabolic horse, you should probably rinse anyway. You'd be surposed how brown and sugary that first rinse water from "plain" bp can be.
                The CoTH CYA - please consult w/your veterinarian under any and all circumstances. - ET


                • #9
                  I've been feeding beet pulp to my horses for many years now. I have only used the shredded because they have to chew it and when they do the chewing releases digestive enzymes which is the first step in the digestion process, really important. I do use the molasses flavored but it's the only molasses they get. They only get a cup per horse of regular washed oats an most of their meal is 50/50 hay cubes and I also add about a generous 1/2 cup of ground flax seed. I used to use Equi-Jewel stabilized rice bran too but it's another high fat foot and my boys are quite the fatties. I also add Opt-E-Horse as an all purpose supplement, it has probiotics, trace minerals as well as vitamins and minerals that they need. When the winter gets going I'll add sea kelp to give them a healthy boost and if they start eating mud again I'll also add a small amount of horse minerals. That will stop them from mud eating. I haven't fed a formulated feed in ages but my guys are doing well, they have a hay buffet of orchard grass and go to town on it. I take the whole mix of beet pulp, hay cubes, ground flax and oats and mix them up with the Opt-E-Horse and soak it for a while and they share that, unfortunately they also sometimes dump the flat feeders. That I don't appreciate. Teddy is the one who does this, he ranks low and wants the food so he grabs one of the dishes. Sometimes if I ask nicely he'll also hand me the empty,dirty dish, I have to point to it. He says, "Sir, may I have some more, please."


                  • #10
                    I LOFF the rolled beep. It's rolled and some veggie oil is added--though the fat content is almost nil, so I suspect the oil is just sprayed for dust...

                    It is super easy to handle and feeds like rolled oats. Never a choke issue. It's way expensive, however, or else I'd feed it exclusively. I do get it for my stallion, since he can't have alfalfa or soy. He gets the rolled beep and whole oats etc. I would have to extrapolate that there isn't quite as much fiber as the shreds--or the right kind of fiber, as stated above-- but I don't think it would be any different than the pellets.

                    The pellets are quite a bit cheaper than shreds up here. Couple of dollars more per bag for a 40lb bag of shreds vs. 50lbs of pellets. Pellets are easy to handle, but must be soaked. (lost a beautiful yearling to complications from choke. Not the choke itself, but he had to be treated, flipped with the nose tube, died 24 hrs later. )
                    InnisFailte Pinto Sporthorses & Coloured Cobs

                    Bits are like cats, what's one more? (Petstorejunkie)


                    • #11
                      I find the pellets to be cheaper, but they are a pain to soak. I use shredded as it soaks better plus has the right fiber length.


                      • #12
                        bought a bag of plain shredded it cost 16.00. last year same bag was 10.00