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    Cold weather is here and my horse never drinks as much as I'd like when his water is cold. For the past several years, I have carried buckets of warm water out to him but now I am thinking about getting one of these:

    http://www.doversaddlery.com/product...&ids=335767199

    Does anyone have one of these? If so, how well do they work?

    Does it make the water warm or does it just keep the water from freezing?

    Would it be safe to use one of these with an extension cord?

    Thanks for any information. I'm also open to other suggestions to help solve this cold water dilemma. I have 1 horse and 1 small donkey. They have access to shelter but they are on 24/7 turnout and their water tub is out in the pasture.

  • #2
    I've used that very bucket the last three years and have been very pleased. While I don't know the exact temperature it keeps the water, on insanely cold mornings (teens and single digits), the water steams because of the temperature difference.

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    • #3
      I have a smaller (5 gallon) version and also a large dog bowl made by the same company. They're great--they keep the water just above freezing, but not warm. You can use an extension cord as long as it's not a skimpy household one--I'd go for a super-duty, outdoor one that's meant to carry a good bit of voltage, like one meant for power tools.
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      • #4
        Hay

        All of our horses have these 5 gal. sized buckets in the winter. In fact, they prefer the water in them to the cold water in the other buckets. I provide both buckets, one electric heated and one regular, just in case.

        I was always told not to use an extension cord with them. We put in outlets right be each stall and then cut a small circular hole in the stall wall to run the plug out of. Well, worth whatever they're charging for these things.

        They definitely drink more water. I think it keeps the water about 40 degrees or something.
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        • #5
          I have a 5 gal and a 15 gal in the barn right now. They like the 5 gal better, I think because the coil is completely covered. I also have a heater for the stock tank which they won't drink from if it is plugged in. I have stuck my hand in and I can't feel a thing but they drink if it isn't plugged in, don't if it is. I have to have an extension cord, heavy duty outdoor type for the stock tank but the barn ones plug into the wall.

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          • #6
            I have both the stall size water bucket and the large one you linked to. They work great. I actually use the smaller size to make my beet pulp in, to keep it from freezing from one feeding to the next.

            Your only concern should be that you need to have them plugged into a GFI plug for safety's sake.
            What you allow is what will continue.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by c5rose View Post
              I've used that very bucket the last three years and have been very pleased. While I don't know the exact temperature it keeps the water, on insanely cold mornings (teens and single digits), the water steams because of the temperature difference.
              I have one of the same buckets and used it my first winter with horses home. It keeps the water qluite a bit above freezing level, warm actually and you will see steam as the above poster said. The only drawback I found was that it increased our electric bill SIGNIFICANTLY. Like by 60.00+/month. We ended up getting a drain plug heater for our 100 gallon Rubbermaid water tank and found that it only increased our electric bill minimally. Just something to consider if your on a budget at all.My horses are out 24/7 with a in/out stall and access to their pasture. The big water tub with heater is kept in the vicinity of our grain room and we use an extension cord. If you have the proper safety plugs etc.. you should be okay. My husband carefully coils the cord and secures it with zip ties on the fence boards coming from the bucket to the barn. That way there is no slack lying around for the horses to get in trouble with.

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              • #8
                There are 20 of them at the barn where I board, and they are real labor-savers.

                A little thought given to installation makes a big difference in the ease of dumping (we learned this the hard way). We wound up drilling a hole through the wall at the bottom of each bucket large enough to pass through the plug and power cord. We placed receptacles with GFI protection on the opposite side of the wall, leaving enough slack so we could pull the cords back into the stall to facilitate dumping. After dumping, the slack is pulled back to the receptacle side of the wall.

                Don't put too many on one breaker! If the breaker trips, you wind up with a bunch of frozen buckets. We plug a night-light into one receptacle on each circuit to verify that power is available.

                If empty, the bottoms of the buckets can get quite hot, but we've yet to have any show signs of melting. The elements consume about 150 Watts, and only remain on long enough to bring water temperature up to about 45 degrees.

                Pricestory, horses and cattle are very sensitive to ground leakage currents. It's a big problem in milking barns when the cow's teats are connected to the milking machine.
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                • #9
                  MHT, thanks so much for the great idea about using these for beet pulp. I hate that part of winter, hauling from the house the warm beet pulp.

                  OP, I have used these since they first came out, and love them. Horses get the 5 gallon in their stalls, and the larger one, which is muck bucket size outside.

                  I live in NH, and it can be below 20 for weeks, and I have never had one freeze.
                  They last awhile too. Most have been destroyed rather than stopped working.

                  I do use ext cords, I have no choice, I use the medium or heavy duty ones. I do have gfi outlets that they get plugged into.

                  I don't find the electric use is as high as with 'heaters' used in stock tanks.
                  In fact, the 16 gallon is only 230 watts, and the smaller 5 gallon are 130 watts...wheras the heaters used in stock tanks are 1000 to 1500 watts, and do need or should be grounded too. These do not need a ground attached to the heater. Just plug it in.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by fivehorses View Post

                    Horses get the 5 gallon in their stalls, and the larger one, which is muck bucket size outside.



                    I do use ext cords, I have no choice, I use the medium or heavy duty ones. I do have gfi outlets that they get plugged into.
                    Me too!

                    Those buckets are wonderful!

                    I also use extension cords, sized appropriately for the load. Our electric was installed with the need for heated buckets in mind. I discussed the extenison cords with both an electrician and an electrical engineer.

                    I have not noticed any great increase in the electric bill with these buckets. Honestly, our winter electric bill is not any more than our summer bill when we are running fans.


                    If I happen to close the horses inside at night I do put a board over the top of the outside bucket to help it retain its heat a little better.

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                    • #11
                      Got the five gal. version for my picky drinker/ easy ulcer horse. He drinks a lot year round, and I love them in the winter time as well b/c when my fingertips get cold, I put them around the base of the hanging bucket. Very Nice extra advantage! The others aren't as fond of it, but we bring out warm water and use a strainer to get the ice out of their buckets 3- 4 times each day. They're great with this method, as they aren't as big of drinkers any time of the year.
                      I do ude an outdoor extension cord, and tie it where the plug connects so it is not as easy to pull apart. None of the cord can be reached by the horses since they are all trouble makers/ mess makers in the aisle and around their doors. I do unplug it during the daytime, as even when it's 20 degrees out, the barn stays between 35 and 40 during the day with the sun warming it. I do keep it on when there are days upon days where the temp doesn't go above 25 at all, but try to keep it "normal" otherwise. Outside, we have one of the sinking heaters in the rubber trough and an outdoor covered outlet it goes into directly. Same situation with how often it's plugged in, as the sun does a marvelous job on it when the temp hovers around freezing.
                      Work well for us!
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                      • #12
                        Q#1-does the water evaporate quickly, and q#2- if the bucket goes empty does it ruin the heating element?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Nezzy View Post
                          Q#1-does the water evaporate quickly, and q#2- if the bucket goes empty does it ruin the heating element?
                          I use a heated bucket (not the same one shown above), but never noticed it evaporating more quickly. Mine doesn't seem to warm up the water, but keeps it from freezing.

                          I don't know about the empty bucket scenario. But I would think it would shut off if it was empty??? Just a guess though.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Nezzy View Post
                            Q#1-does the water evaporate quickly, and q#2- if the bucket goes empty does it ruin the heating element?
                            It does not heat the water to a point that it will vanish mysteriously. So I doubt you will find it evaporates any faster than it does any other time of year.

                            These buckets, in theory have a device that will not allow them to burn themselves up. I have come home a couple of times and found the heated bucket empty (and the other not heated bucket frozen solid and full, darn them, why do they drink the heated bucket first) and no damage has been done.

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                            • #15
                              I have had the 5gal version in each stall for the last 4 Winters and I love them. Never have to worry that horses don't have water to drink.
                              The horses seem to prefer the 50gal drum with the sinking de-icer to drink from, but they do use the buckets.
                              I check them twice a day and top them off but the literature that came with them said they will shut off if the water temp goes over 40.
                              I've never noticed them feeling hot and the water remains cool.

                              I also have a smaller version for barncat - maybe 1/2 gal?
                              This one does make the water almost lukewarm and cat will drink from the stall buckets rather than this dish.
                              BTW: this smaller version cost more than the 5gal!

                              Buckets in the stalls have heavy duty outdoor-rated extension cords that plug directly into outlets above each stall. I used heavy-duty staples to run the extension cords to the outlets along the top of the stalls so they are not hanging loose, being careful not to pierce the cords.
                              I didn't bother boring holes from stall walls for the cords that are attached directly to the buckets and so far my horses haven't bothered these cords which are encased in coiled wire.

                              Can't say my electric bill changed dramatically from using the buckets.
                              In Winter I also use a heat tape for the pump and the sinking de-icer runs off barn power as the 50gal drum is right outside the front barn slider.
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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by trubandloki View Post
                                It does not heat the water to a point that it will vanish mysteriously. So I doubt you will find it evaporates any faster than it does any other time of year.

                                These buckets, in theory have a device that will not allow them to burn themselves up. I have come home a couple of times and found the heated bucket empty (and the other not heated bucket frozen solid and full, darn them, why do they drink the heated bucket first) and no damage has been done.

                                Thanks

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                                • #17
                                  http://www.horse.com/Farm-Ranch-Supp...Tub-BEW15.html

                                  I got this one last week, same thing, just cheaper .

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