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  • Sore soles/tender feet

    So this year in FL has been a mix of monsoon and tidal wave. Just simply a constant barrage of rain. The ground is fairly sodden but it literally changes from day to day.

    My DD's ponies feet are suffering. No thrush or anything of that nature but she is very tender footed , farrier says its her soles. Its not typical of her and I was wondering if there were any solutions other then the obvious one of just keeping her off the wet ground which pretty much means in 24/7 because even the ring is squishy.

    What solutions are there for tender feet and soles.
    Last edited by Lynnwood; Sep. 22, 2013, 01:54 AM.
    "I would not beleive her if her tongue came notorized"

  • #2
    Some people use things like Keratex, the old stand by Venice Turpentine, or Durasole.
    Brothers and sisters, I bid you beware
    Of giving your heart to a dog to tear.
    -Rudyard Kipling

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    • #3
      Also a Floridian. I iodine the horses' soles between 1-2 times per week and everyone here is looking good.

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      • #4
        Keratex on the soles but not the frog.

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        • #5
          Your farrier should have a suggestion for you. If she has always had thin soles which are being exacerbated by the wet footing then that may be a little different. You could try iodine (get it from the vet or farrier so it's a higher concentration), or keratex to try to toughen her feet back up.
          If she does have thin soles I would speak to your farrier about putting pads on, he may be reluctant to do it she's literally standing in puddles, but if it's just soggy footing she should be fine.
          We spent about a month this spring dealing with this in my 4yo, he was never dead lame, just on and off ouchy on both front feet. Iodine did nothing for him. Put pads on, rode the next day and he's been 100% sound ever since.

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          • #6
            She could have laminitis. I'd call the vet.

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            • #7
              Rule out laminitis, then Durasole.

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                #8
                Originally posted by LauraKY View Post
                Rule out laminitis, then Durasole.
                Its defiantly not laminitis. I have been using Durasole and haven't noticed much of a difference.

                Not standing in puddles the ground is just literally sodden , as you walk through it you can hear it squish if that makes sense, but no standing water.

                The farrier has never mentioned that she has thin soles as a matter of fact he says her feet and in good shape. Just exasperated by all the wet like someone said.

                Does anyone find Keratex to be more effective then Durasole ?
                Last edited by Lynnwood; Sep. 22, 2013, 03:14 PM.
                "I would not beleive her if her tongue came notorized"

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                • #9
                  Buy crossapol. It is cheaper by the case of 12 bottle and you will use all of it.

                  Apply as directed. Do not skimp of it. It is used on the sole and frog and the walls of hoof.

                  Keep following directions and then wait 3 months, impatiently, but wait. Soles will be much better. And keep it up. I did it for 2 yrs, then quit when I acquired another horse and had to pay board and vet and farrier for her. Now I'm back, after 2 years of not needing it, to using crossapol, as this year has been so wet and pastures (and once the stalls) were flooded most of the spring and summer.

                  Crossapol works.

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                  • #10
                    How do you know it's not laminitis?

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by grayarabpony View Post
                      How do you know it's not laminitis?
                      Because I have a good farrier , and a fantastic lameness specialist that have already said she has sore soles because of the weather.

                      Looking for solutions to solve that issue not get into a it could be lamanitis argument.
                      "I would not beleive her if her tongue came notorized"

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                      • #12
                        Magic Cushion really helped my mare

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Lynnwood View Post
                          Its defiantly not laminitis. I have been using Durasole and haven't noticed much of a difference.

                          The farrier has never mentioned that she has thin soles as a matter of fact he says her feet and in good shape. Just exasperated by all the wet like someone said.
                          Originally posted by Lynnwood View Post
                          Because I have a good farrier , and a fantastic lameness specialist that have already said she has sore soles because of the weather.

                          Looking for solutions to solve that issue not get into a it could be lamanitis argument.
                          OK then. Personally I haven't seen a horse with good sole depth and healthy feet be sore just because it's wet outside, and and that includes when Hurrcianes Fran (when we were 10 inches above normal before Fran hit) and Floyd came through.

                          If your farrier and fantastic lameness specialist were that fantastic you shouldn't have to come to COTH for advice.

                          And, if Durasole isn't helping your horse in all likelihood something else besides soft soles is going on. Could be abscesses brewing.

                          Hope your DD's pony feels better soon.

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                          • #14
                            I live in FL and had the same issue. I have tried all. Only product that worked is Hoof Armor. Using it for years now.

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                              Originally posted by grayarabpony View Post
                              OK then. Personally I haven't seen a horse with good sole depth and healthy feet be sore just because it's wet outside, and and that includes when Hurrcianes Fran (when we were 10 inches above normal before Fran hit) and Floyd came through.

                              If your farrier and fantastic lameness specialist were that fantastic you shouldn't have to come to COTH for advice.
                              GAP you asked how I knew it wasn't lamanitis I told you the pony has been checked by both my farrier and vet. Why make an issue out of it ?

                              As for coming here and asking for other solutions ..last I checked they were not magic and the point of this board is to be able to converse with peers about issues.

                              Their solutions were to keep her in where its dry (fairly commonplace and durasol ) Which as this point has not made a huge difference so was looking for alternatives.
                              "I would not beleive her if her tongue came notorized"

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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by Lynnwood View Post
                                Because I have a good farrier , and a fantastic lameness specialist that have already said she has sore soles because of the weather.

                                Looking for solutions to solve that issue not get into a it could be lamanitis argument.
                                Well...it could be laminitis; it's not always really obvious and can seem like stubbornness, grouchiness, or tenderness. Is the pony on grass or only hay? If the pony has any predisposition to Cushings this would be the time of year where a mild laminitic flare could happen as a result of a fall rise in ACTH.

                                Both my Cushings pony and my pre-Cushings mini seem to have more trouble in September-December, even when medicated, and I think it is possibly related to a fall rise in ACTH (if I had the money I would pull blood every other week just to see if it is actually the ACTH, or something else?)

                                If the pony is on pasture, the cooler night temperatures cause the grass to grow and this could also affect IR horses and/or those with Cushings.

                                Lots of horses stand in wet conditions for much of the year and it doesn't cause soreness simply from being damp - heck, all our horses would be lame from March to May if that were the case. So I wouldn't assume it can't possibly be anything other than wet conditions. It could be that wet, soft soles are more easily bruised, but just being wet shouldn't cause them to be sore.

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                                  Originally posted by S1969 View Post
                                  Well...it could be laminitis; it's not always really obvious and can seem like stubbornness, grouchiness, or tenderness. Is the pony on grass or only hay? If the pony has any predisposition to Cushings this would be the time of year where a mild laminitic flare could happen as a result of a fall rise in ACTH.

                                  Both my Cushings pony and my pre-Cushings mini seem to have more trouble in September-December, even when medicated, and I think it is possibly related to a fall rise in ACTH (if I had the money I would pull blood every other week just to see if it is actually the ACTH, or something else?)

                                  If the pony is on pasture, the cooler night temperatures cause the grass to grow and this could also affect IR horses and/or those with Cushings.

                                  Lots of horses stand in wet conditions for much of the year and it doesn't cause soreness simply from being damp - heck, all our horses would be lame from March to May if that were the case. So I wouldn't assume it can't possibly be anything other than wet conditions. It could be that wet, soft soles are more easily bruised, but just being wet shouldn't cause them to be sore.
                                  Pony really isn't a "pony" she's a 14 hand QH.

                                  Also she has been sore off and on almost all summer. We have heavy rains and the ground gets soaked she ends up sore. Ground stays dry she isn't sore. So not a recent to fall issue.

                                  She is on grass and hay and wears a muzzle outside if shes out more then a few hours turned out during the day in an effort to try to keep her out when its the ground is the most dry and the sugars are the lowest because of her weight not Cushings /IR.

                                  She is also on ThyroL from early summer through fall because of her weight. Blood work has always been normal not Cushings or IR at this point.

                                  Her body condition /weight have always been a struggle we've owned her for 11 of her 13 years and she always leans towards the rubenesque shape.

                                  Just to head off the next question. NO grain 100 grams of a ration balancer 2 2x's a day. Yes I measure it.
                                  "I would not beleive her if her tongue came notorized"

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                                  • #18
                                    How long have you been applying the durasol? Have you spoken to the vet/farrier about a timeframe?
                                    I have to agree with the others who questioned laminitis. X-rays are the only way to tell if there's been any rotation, it would also be a good way to actually see the thickness of her soles. If you've been following their treatment plan for a fair amount of time with no results you may have to dig deeper.
                                    Like I said earlier though, if you don't want to spend the money on x-rays ask your farrier about pads/magic cushion.
                                    Keratex, Durasol, iodine all work on the same principles, if one isn't working I wouldn't waste my time/money trying the others.

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                                    • #19
                                      Does the pony have shoes on or is she barefoot? If she's not shod, have you considered shoes?
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                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by grayarabpony View Post
                                        OK then. Personally I haven't seen a horse with good sole depth and healthy feet be sore just because it's wet outside, and and that includes when Hurrcianes Fran (when we were 10 inches above normal before Fran hit) and Floyd came through.

                                        If your farrier and fantastic lameness specialist were that fantastic you shouldn't have to come to COTH for advice.

                                        And, if Durasole isn't helping your horse in all likelihood something else besides soft soles is going on. Could be abscesses brewing.

                                        Hope your DD's pony feels better soon.
                                        This exactly.
                                        come what may

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