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  • #41
    Originally posted by asterix
    Leasing can go wrong so many ways. Your pony has passed a PPE and been with them for 2 weeks. I'd go get her.
    ^^^THIS^^^
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    • #42
      Go get her. I smell a rat. Never mind who owes who the shipping, just go get her and make her safe. Jerks. They've got something up their sleeves and I don't like it.
      Proud and achy member of the Eventing Grannies clique.

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        #43
        Thank you for all your advice!!

        So this morning I spoke to my trainer. I had her contact their trainer and tell them to either buy her today (I even reduced my asking price by 10%) or send her home. If they would like to use her for the upcoming AA show, they can. However, the pony will be with ME for the next two weeks being actively tried. If the pony is still available at show time, they may pay all her expenses, plus a show fee, and we will get the pony there.

        Ready for their response? YOU MUST COME AND GET HER. WE WILL NOT PAY FOR THE PONY TO BE SHIPPED BACK.

        Seriously?! So now the trainers are in a back and forth pissing contest. I just want our pony back now. She is 3 hours away. Our assistant trainer volunteered to meet them halfway. Still nothing.

        Remember I gave them an extra trial week too! We had a contract, but I don't believe it included shipping?? Not sure. Guess they never planned on buying her.

        Stay tuned....

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        • #44
          The only way I would consider is if they will sign a contract for the 3 additional weeks at 10% the purchase price (or 15 or 20%, whatever is acceptable for YOU) and clearly state NON-REFUNDABLE if they back out. At the termination date, if they don't want the pony, you pick it up and keep their "deposit."

          Otherwise I wouldn't take them serious, and I'd get the pony back now.
          "Hell, when I move my things go in boxes and I always make sure and bubble wrap my dog feces so it don't get broke." runwayz

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          • #45
            Just read your update - if you didn't have shipping in the contract and it's still your pony, I'd suck it up and get her out.
            "Hell, when I move my things go in boxes and I always make sure and bubble wrap my dog feces so it don't get broke." runwayz

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            • #46
              Wow, sounds like they definitely weren't ever going to buy! Sorry you're in this situation, I hope the shipping works out and your pony comes back in good shape!

              This is why I don't send horses on trials- they never seem to work out well.

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              • #47
                Why am I not surprised? Their asking for additional "trial" time after passing the prepurchase and having pony for 2 weeks screamed "shady". What did your trainer have to say to their response? Has trainer done business with their trainer before?
                In an age when scientists are creating artificial intelligence, too many of our educational institutions seem to be creating artificial stupidity.—Thomas Sowell, Is Thinking Obsolete?

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                  #48
                  I don't mind paying for shipping at this point. I just want her back. I think my trainer doesn't want to give in on principal because she is beyond annoyed at these people. She said they are not listening to reason. Enough is enough.

                  I do not believe she has done business with this trainer before, but has known the barn owner for years (doesn't everybody know everybody?). She thinks they are throwing a fit because we didn't give them what they wanted - a month lease on our sale pony so they can show her - and most likely give her back after that month!!

                  I told my dear friend to get her truck and trailer ready. I'm about to go get her myself!

                  I will not feel better until she is back in my barn. No more trials!!

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                  • #49
                    Good for you. And I'm absolutely appalled that after a 2 week trial and refusal to purchase, as agreed, they refused to ship pony back. I've NEVER heard of a horse on trial that the owner had to pay to have it shipped back or pick up themselves. And I think that after you get pony home you should "out" this trainer!
                    In an age when scientists are creating artificial intelligence, too many of our educational institutions seem to be creating artificial stupidity.—Thomas Sowell, Is Thinking Obsolete?

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                    • #50
                      And it's circumstances such as this that make people refuse to send horses out on trial. For very good reason.
                      In an age when scientists are creating artificial intelligence, too many of our educational institutions seem to be creating artificial stupidity.—Thomas Sowell, Is Thinking Obsolete?

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                      • #51
                        What a pain! Are you sure they actually did the PPE?
                        As Peter, Paul, and Mary say, a dragon lives forever.

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                          #52
                          Originally posted by CrowneDragon View Post
                          What a pain! Are you sure they actually did the PPE?
                          As sure as I can be 3 hours away. They said they did it last Thursday and she passed... They did tell my trainer that the day after she was vetted. But, at this point I don't believe anything these people say!

                          I just tried calling my trainer to get an end to all this back and forth. Went to voicemail. She's probably still on with this guy. I think when the pony returns I will just hug her and cry.

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                          • #53
                            Yep, get her back ASAP. This is ridiculous. I have had a horse on trial before. We agreed on a week, I rode her, took her to have her vetted and she was back home within the week because of some things I didn't want to deal with. Like my boys acting like fools with a mare and some other ppe things. I'm on my own farm but I showed against this horse and knew the owner somewhat. That's what your suppose to do not hee and haw around and drain every bit of niceness a person has out of them. They should be lucky you let the pony go on trial most do not anymore because of problems like these.
                            Horses aren't our whole life, but makes our life whole

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                            • #54
                              [QUOTE=jenct;6948329]I don't mind paying for shipping at this point. I just want her back. I think my trainer doesn't want to give in on principal because she is beyond annoyed at these people. She said they are not listening to reason. Enough is enough.

                              I do not believe she has done business with this trainer before, but has known the barn owner for years (doesn't everybody know everybody?). She thinks they are throwing a fit because we didn't give them what they wanted - a month lease on our sale pony so they can show her - and most likely give her back after that month!!

                              I told my dear friend to get her truck and trailer ready. I'm about to go get her myself!
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                              I will not feel better until she is back in my barn. No more trials!![/QUOTE
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                              It's really too bad this BS happens, but "stuff" like THIS is why I NEVER do a trial. Hope the pony is in the same condition as when she left. Did you even get a deposit???
                              www.crosscreeksporthorses.com
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                              • #55
                                I'm so sorry you had to go through something like this You were being AMAZING with this sale and got taken advantage of. I've been there. I sent a horse on a two week trial and he came back sore behind, with spur injuries and had been shown off the property without my permission or knowledge!!! People are rediculous, which is why I no longer offer trials, which has not affected my ability to sell anything so don't worry about that. I've found the one's who ask for trials are really not that serious to begin with.

                                I hope you have your pony back safe and sound very soon!

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                                • #56
                                  Hell, if you lived near me I would go get her. These people are nuts. Get your pony back.

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                                    #57
                                    This trainer has not returned my trainer's call back. She left him a voicemail that basically said to him, "Look, I've known you for years. Be the professional horseman that I know you are and do the right thing." She told him she'd have a trailer up at a horse show 2 hours from him both today and Sunday. She asked if he could just get the pony there between now and Sunday, that we would take care of the rest. Still waiting for that call back. My trainer said she would text me as soon as she hears from him.

                                    If he doesn't respond, I am going to beg my friend to drive me up there with her truck and trailer and get the pony myself!

                                    I just can't imagine doing this to anyone! This has already been an emotional week for both me and my DD. We love the pony so much and it is so hard to move on as it is.

                                    I want to thank each one of you who has responded! You are all helping me stay somewhat sane!

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                                    • #58
                                      Yes, please if you don't hear anything by tomorrow just go get your pony. Even if you have to pay someone. This is just sounding crazy. That trainer should have gotten back to yours if this pony needed to leave today, by their words.
                                      Horses aren't our whole life, but makes our life whole

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                                      • #59
                                        Oh and to add. People like this tick me off. They ruin it for all us normal people that do as they agreed to and take care of someone's animal on trial. It would be so nice to be able to try horses at your place for a week but people just can't trust anyone anymore.
                                        Horses aren't our whole life, but makes our life whole

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                                        • #60
                                          If it were me I would 'not get into it' with these people or allow my representative to do so-- I would simply arrange to pick up the pony like yesterday. The right people will come along and they will not be dickering around trying to change the plan.
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