• Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.



Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.

Outright inflammatory, vulgar, harassing, malicious or otherwise inappropriate statements and criminal charges unsubstantiated by a reputable news source or legal documentation will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 1/26/16)
See more
See less

Cost for a stall space, mucking and care versus full board.

  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Cost for a stall space, mucking and care versus full board.

    I have kind of a weird situation right now with a lady boarding here with a very large, big eating, high maintenance horse. I won't go into details as it's not pertinent but the possibility of her buying her own hay, grain, and bedding was brought up as she's one of these boarders who is never happy with how much hay, bedding or grain her big horse gets as part of the board, and I was asked what would I charge for the stall space and to do the feeding, turnout and mucking.

    Horsey has a double stall due to his large size and he's a pig. It takes me 20 minutes to bank it back (shavings), clean out his copious wet spot and find the hidden turds. I figure I easily spend a half hour a day on this horse alone. My other boarders stalls take 10 minutes tops to muck, in and out, no hassles.

    So she's asks me this question and I gave her a number (without mucking included) and she said "oh that's too much....such and such said that he'd only charge $125 a month for a stall and mucking." I tried to point out that it would cost me more than that to pay someone to muck his stall a day for a month and that number left nothing for facility costs such as electric, insurance, etc....and considering he has a double stall (foaling size). I had in mind a number more around $200 at the least and still think I'm not charging enough. I got a blank look and boarder still insisted that anything over $125 a month was too much. Seriously???

    What do you folks think? I have a feeling that this situation is not going to improve regardless of what I do but I want to be fair and see what the going rates are for such things at general boarding barns.


  • #2
    First, I would not do it for less than $200. Second, if she doesn't like it she can go to the place that charges $125. Would you be sad to lose her?


    • #3
      Tell her it's double your normal cost (she is using 2 stalls, after all, and it's double your work) and show her the door. Not worth it. Your barn, your rules.
      Click here before you buy.


      • Original Poster

        I feel better now...thanks. I wanted to be completely fair that I was not overpricing this but as busy as I am monkeying around with her horse is not worth it for so little.


        • #5
          The answer depends on what board costs are in your area.

          That aside, it sounds like this person expects something for nothing and is clueless about what having a horse actually costs.
          I would give the owner notice (so they can move to the place they keep telling you is so much cheaper) and find yourself a new boarder.


          • #6
            As trubandloki said, it does depend on prices in your area. One facility that I know of rents dry stalls for $250 per month, while their full care board is currently about $780 per month, meaning the dry stall fee is about one-third of the full board rate. If you include mucking as part of your deal, you will need to figure in the labor costs for that as well.

            "Avoid loud and aggressive persons, they are vexations to the spirit."
            - Desiderata, (c) Max Ehrman, 1926


            • #7
              8 years ago I was paying $195 for partial care - I provided grain, I paid for hay that he bought as part of his barn's alottment (ie he got it all in the barn and charged for anything eaten), I cleaned his stall but the shavings were provided. So your $200 today is not out of reason in the slightest.
              The CoTH CYA - please consult w/your veterinarian under any and all circumstances. - ET


              • #8
                Lady doesn't happen to live in hampton by chance ? Just curious :0) I had a boarder that had me so stressed I decided boarding was not for me and that's when I bought a pony for my horse. Her horse was pretty large (17ish hands).

                If the horse is a pig and taking up more time and more space then I would charge more. The co-op place in hampton I used to board at would charge me $125 for a 10x10 stall, turnout in the morning only, feeding morning only. Place down the street from that is $150 for a similar situation. Both places have just the pasture to ride in. So I think if you were doing turnout, turn in, am/pm feeding, and spending extra time cleaning because he's messy you should charge at least $200.


                • #9
                  If a boarder would've said that to me my response would have been "Does he have an opening for you?"

                  $200 is very fair, she's paying for a double sized stall plus feeding and cleaning.


                  • #10
                    I board at a self care barn. I pay $130/ month for my stall and do all the barn work and buy all feed and bedding. Barn is in Harford county Maryland .


                    • #11
                      This was about 5 yrs ago but I did self care at a barn and was paying $150 just for the stall and use of a paddock for turnout. I provided my own feed, hay, and shavings and was responsible for feeding, turnout, and mucking. $200 sounds like a deal to me if you're still doing all of the work! I definitely wouldn't offer it for less than that. FWIW, regular full board around here is in the $300-400 range.
                      "Farming looks mighty easy when your plow is a pencil, and you're a thousand miles from the corn field." --Dwight D Eisenhower

                      Boston Terrier Rescue of NC - www.btrnc.org - Adopt for Life!


                      • #12
                        I would charge 250! I know this lady and DDB is so right! Nothing is going to make her happy and it is a shame she hasn't learned her lesson. Shame, Shame. She is out of options in our area for boarding!


                        • #13
                          I'm in RI so prices may be different. Most of us do rough board but one of the boarders pays another boarder to clean her stall. She pays the BO $175/mo for the stall itself, and then the other boarder $200/mo to clean the stall M-F (owner comes on the weekends to clean and ride). The owner provides all the hay, grain and shavings for her horse. Full board at this barn would be $625.

                          If the stall were a double stall, the owner would at least have to pay for the additional stall (so another $175). I am not sure how the cleaning half of it would go - yes it's double the space but it's the same amount of mess, just more spread out.

                          Custom Painted Saddle Pads and Ornaments


                          • Original Poster

                            Hey Joanne...it just never ends..I swear it. Her friend who lives down the road from me was up here with her yesterday enabling her to the $125 figure which I am glad to see others feel is way too little also. I had practically given her notice the other day...had had enough...and she practically begged me to stay and to work something out...as you said, she's out of options.

                            I guess we'll have another talk today as it's the first and I want to make sure she's got her 30 days notice if she needs to find somewhere else to board.

                            Thanks for all the feedback, advice and support. It helps!


                            • Original Poster

                              Originally posted by morgansnmind View Post
                              Lady doesn't happen to live in hampton by chance ? Just curious :0) I had a boarder that had me so stressed I decided boarding was not for me and that's when I bought a pony for my horse. Her horse was pretty large (17ish hands).

                              If the horse is a pig and taking up more time and more space then I would charge more. The co-op place in hampton I used to board at would charge me $125 for a 10x10 stall, turnout in the morning only, feeding morning only. Place down the street from that is $150 for a similar situation. Both places have just the pasture to ride in. So I think if you were doing turnout, turn in, am/pm feeding, and spending extra time cleaning because he's messy you should charge at least $200.
                              No I don't think it's the same person. This one lives in Suffolk.

                              I do farrier work at a couple of co op barns and I thought the going rate was more $150 or so in this area. Many of those places I've seen do not have much of a facility...just a small barn and like you said, pasture to ride in. My barn is a nice concrete block aisle barn with all the amenities and arenas.


                              • #16
                                Originally posted by Daydream Believer View Post
                                Her friend who lives down the road from me was up here with her yesterday enabling her to the $125 figure
                                Maybe she can go to her friend's place if her friend thinks that is a fair price.



                                • #17
                                  I'm sorry its in Euros but the facility I'm at now specifies the costs and people pay what they consume, so I might help you.

                                  I pay 220€ per month for stall and basic care, plus 23% tax on that.
                                  Hay is 0,34€ + 6% tax per kg
                                  Bedding is straw at 0,20€ + 6% tax per kg
                                  I bring in my own hard feed
                                  Cleaning and putting the equipment in my locker is 15€ + 23% tax

                                  I know you're in a completely different area but you get the point.
                                  Last edited by SCMSL; Mar. 1, 2013, 12:32 PM.


                                  • #18
                                    She sounds like a pain. Decide what price would make you happy to put up with her. If she doesn't like it, suggest that your barn isn't the best fit for poopsie and she should look elsewhere.


                                    • #19
                                      Second everyone that $125 is ridiculous. I pay $150 to just rent a stall at a racing barn (only outdoor arena for me in terms of "amenities"). And I'm in the deep south where things are cheap. In any of the other 3 states I have lived in, what you're saying would probably cost $200+.


                                      • #20
                                        If she was at my barn, I would take the cost of full board ($400), subtract the cost of what it costs to feed and bed an average horse (about $150 here) an multiple by 2 since she is taking up to stalls! She would not stay at my barn for under $500, as described.

                                        Third Charm Event Team