• Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.

Announcement

Collapse

Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.

Outright inflammatory, vulgar, harassing, malicious or otherwise inappropriate statements and criminal charges unsubstantiated by a reputable news source or legal documentation will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 1/26/16)
See more
See less

A horse that won't drink and beet pulp

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • A horse that won't drink and beet pulp

    My old show horse came home to retire with me last Friday night. She's in great health and you can tell her previous owners took amazing care of her

    The issue is that she just won't drink. They said she was like that when they got her and they had to bring water from home with them when they showed her. I never had these issues with her when I was showing her 10 years ago. They had her on a textured pellet, alfalfa pellet, and beet pulp diet, but since she hasn't been drinking I have upped the shredded beet pulp since it is soaked in water.

    We're calling the vet today to see if he thinks we should bring her in for an IV because she's had maybe half a bucket of water since she got here, but I'm wondering for ongoing maitenance how much beet pulp to feed her in one feeding. Our idea is to do 6 qts of our custom pellet for her morning feeding with her senior supplements and then straight beet pulp at night since we cannot combine the two because our pellet will disolve in water. I bought a smaller 3 qt scoop and am wonding how much dry shredded beet pulp I should feed at night (assuming we get her on the desired schedule soon because we're still mixing the food she came with).

    TIA, this horse is extremely important to me
    Southern Cross Guest Ranch
    An All Inclusive Guest Ranch Vacation - Georgia

  • #2
    Are her gums wet? Does the skin on her neck snap back when you pull a little bit of it out into a tent? I would add some beet pulp or whichever of the pellets you think she likes best to one of her water buckets
    McDowell Racing Stables

    Home Away From Home

    Comment

    • Original Poster

      #3
      That's a great idea! She's getting pretty dehydrated. Gums are getting pale the the skin isn't snapping right back. It's not dire, but it isn't good. DH is calling the vet this morning and I'm pretty sure she'll end up going to the clinic for some fluids. I just don't know how to get her drinking... She's got fresh clean buckets and we're on well water.
      Southern Cross Guest Ranch
      An All Inclusive Guest Ranch Vacation - Georgia

      Comment


      • #4
        Two thoughts that I've seen on this board before.

        1. Yummy water. Try offering her water with purple Gatorade in it. Maybe start by just offering a little Gatorade and then seeing how much you can dilute it. Other people use molasses.

        2. Wet, wet food. Add as much water as possible to her beet pulp. If she's eating it, add more water.
        Disclaimer: My mom told me that people might look at my name and think I had an addiction other than horses. I don't; his name was Bravado.

        Comment


        • #5
          I know my ponies LOVE their soaked alfalfa cubes, maybe grab a bag of them and see if she hoovers them like mine do? Keep it nice and soupy along with your soaked beet pulp. Maybe try warming your water up a little too if it's not already?
          Kerri

          Comment

          • Original Poster

            #6
            How much beet pulp do you typically feed if that's all your feeding? I also like the idea of alfalfa cubes. If I add those too what ratio would you use?
            Southern Cross Guest Ranch
            An All Inclusive Guest Ranch Vacation - Georgia

            Comment


            • #7
              Why is it bad that her pellets would get soft if mixed with the beet pulp?

              Comment


              • #8
                My two are on free choice hay 24x7. They both get about a pound of dry beet pulp and a 2qt scoop of alfalfa cubes dumped in a bucket and soaked in hot water- it makes about 3/4s of a bucket when I'm ready to feed it. Mine get this twice a day along with a handful of flax and a scoop of their vitamin mix. If my horse needed weight/more water, I wouldn't hesitate to double this feeding especially if they had the alone time to eat it up. Lots of senior horses with no teeth live on a soupy mix like this.
                Kerri

                Comment


                • #9
                  If i use the same bucket to give my guys their feed, I use wheat bran just as a mash because it's not fatting, they learn that bucket. So when I want them to drink I'll use that bucket and they suck it right up. If not on occasion then I'll put a handful of wheat bran in it with half a bucket of water and they will suck it down. Also warm water in the winter they will drink easier then cold.
                  Horses aren't our whole life, but makes our life whole

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    I just talked to a Purina rep about Hydration Hay- they had samples of it at the PA Horse Expo. It would not be a cost-effective, long-term choice, but it might be a helpful option until your vet is able to examine her: http://horse.purinamills.com/product...HAYBLOCKS.aspx

                    Best of luck with her.
                    Sarah K. Andrew | Twitter | Blog | Horses & Hope calendar | Flickr | Instagram

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      When I have a horse that won't drink, I use electrolytes in their feed if they are not already dehydrated. This keeps them drinking. Whenever I haul my horse, I take about 20 gallons of his water cause he won't drink at other places. I also carry a tube of paste electrolytes when I'm on the road. I use about 1/2 of a scoop every few days to keep them drinking in the Winter also. Where I live we have severe weather changes.

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        There is a product, called Quencher I think, that my friend used to get her picky horse drinking. They love the flavor and if it worked on him, I bet it will work on any horse. I've added salt to a bucket on advice from my vet to get one of mine drinking more. Whenever adding anything, I always offer a bucket of plain water in addition to the doctored one.

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          1) Warm her water. It may be too cold, especially as it's well water, and irritating her stomach. You can either haul warm water, or buy a heater bucket (which I use for my "princess).
                          2) Soak her hay, It gets extra water into her system. Again, use warm water to really encourage her. Plus, warmed hay smells wonderful
                          3) be careful to not add too many electrolytes to a dehydrated horse- could cause stomach irritation and result in less eating and drinking
                          4) make any food as sloppy as possible
                          5) If it's the smell/taste of your water, add flavouring (like Gatorade as mentioned or even apple juice) to disguise the smell/taste. Slowly decrease the concentration as she shows an inclination to drink.
                          GOOD LUCK!!!

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            Horse Quencher definitely worth a try:
                            http://horsequencher.com/
                            Really wet the bp and you can always add electrolytes to them...I also like to use Foxden Equines Tractguard daily
                            https://www.foxdenequine.com/Product...actGard®.aspx


                            ....and I always keep oral electrolyte paste syringes in my feed room to give them a boost when needed ....Hydration hay by Purina might be another great option to try getting her back on track...;or anything soaked really for that matter....I really like Fibrebeet....

                            http://www.emeraldvalleyequine.com/fibre-beet.cfm

                            Comment

                            • Original Poster

                              #15
                              The vet actually showed up at the farm this morning for a boarder of ours so he was able to take a look at her first thing He said that she was probably too dehydrated for electrolites, but to keep feeding her beet pulp and that if she didn't start drinking better in 36 hours we would go ahead and tube her.

                              Talked to DH since he actually works at the farm and I'm stuck in an office. He's going out to buy Gatorade and alfalfa cubes for her. We're going to try Gatorade in her water and soaking the alfalfa cubes with her beet pulp.

                              We thought our grain wouldn't be good to soak because it pretty much disolves and turns into a mash, but the vet said that might not be a bad idea. We're going to try a mash/soupy mixture of our grain, beet pulp, and some alfalfa cubes. Hopefully she'll start drinking soon so she doesn't have to be tubed

                              Thanks so much everyone! I'll keep y'all informed on her progress.
                              Southern Cross Guest Ranch
                              An All Inclusive Guest Ranch Vacation - Georgia

                              Comment


                              • #16
                                Try adding Buckeye Perform n Win to her water in future. I haven't met a horse yet that doesn't like it !
                                http://www.buckeyenutrition.com/supp...#39;n-win.aspx


                                Apple juice may work too.
                                Last edited by Equibrit; Feb. 25, 2013, 02:37 PM.
                                ... _. ._ .._. .._

                                Comment


                                • #17
                                  I agree with the warm water. My vet said there are studies showing horses will drink more water if it is warmed.

                                  I have never fed bp, but for alfalfa cubes, my best results are to add boiling water to the cubes and they will break down quickly and easily. For 1 qt of cubes, I add 56 oz of boiling water. There is a step by step section on the pitchforkchronicles website below that shows exactly how I do it if you are interested.

                                  Good luck!
                                  http://thepitchforkchronicles.com

                                  Comment


                                  • #18
                                    I second the Gatorade idea. We used to do this with the show horses at our barn who were going to be traveling to a show. We'd start adding the powder to their water at home so they got used to it and then continued adding the powder to their buckets at shows. That way, if the water at the show locations tasted different, the Gatorade masked it and they drank normally.

                                    Comment


                                    • #19
                                      I second the warm water - made all the difference in the world for my boy when he got a sinus infection once, and stopped eating and drinking. Vet said to make a soup of his feed. He was already getting soaked beet pulp with his senior feed, but I made it much wetter, and used very warm water. He drank it up like water, and within a week the sinus infection was gone.
                                      I kept it up though, the soaking the feed in warm water, for years now. Not so soupy, but pretty wet. Interesting thing is, after he eats this, he ALWAYS then turns to his water bucket and slurps down almost a gallon. ??? The feed is already wet! Warm water in winter, room temperature in summer, but always wet, never, ever dry. I haven't had to wet his hay at all.
                                      Get a small microwave oven in your feed/tack room if you don't have hot water on tap in the barn. This way you can heat small amounts of water quickly, anytime it's needed.

                                      Comment


                                      • #20

                                        We thought our grain wouldn't be good to soak because it pretty much disolves and turns into a mash, but the vet said that might not be a bad idea. We're going to try a mash/soupy mixture of our grain, beet pulp, and some alfalfa cubes. Hopefully she'll start drinking soon so she doesn't have to be tubed

                                        Thanks so much everyone! I'll keep y'all informed on her progress.
                                        I dissolve grain in 3 gallons of warm water 3 times a day for my non- drinker.
                                        He drinks the whole bucket down with great relish.
                                        Nothing I ever did worked except for this. I now use the dissolved grain on most of my horses....to keep the vet away!

                                        Comment

                                        Working...
                                        X