• Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.

Announcement

Collapse

Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.

Outright inflammatory, vulgar, harassing, malicious or otherwise inappropriate statements and criminal charges unsubstantiated by a reputable news source or legal documentation will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 1/26/16)
See more
See less

The mechanics of feeding

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Original Poster

    #21
    I personally appreciate a lack of chemicals and genetically modified food. I buy some organic food for myself. I will buy more organic or all organic once I pay off my credit card. I am less fussy about what I buy at this time. For my horses I do prefer organic food, but only if that feed meets there needs without exceeding them. I however like this Timothy from Washington state which is not organic. My big horse absolutely loves the timothy and I have an opportunity to purchase seven months worth for him, and would like to go that route.

    Comment


    • #22
      Organic anything is typically overpriced and no better than non-organic. It is certainly not more nutritious as many believe. If your horses are happy and healthy, I would not change anything. Especially not worthwhile if the farm they live on and the hay they eat is not certified organic. And a lot of the stuff used in conventional farming is also on the organic list. It all uses fuel to produce, organic often uses more because they often have to do more to stop weeds, etc. sorry, touchy subject for me

      Comment


      • #23
        There's a huge difference between organic, and organic. If your BO is trying to run a organic farm on the side, which it doesn't sound like she is, she's in the right to ask for organic feed and such. I was talking with a friend who runs a certified organic farm and recently opened up horse boarding, there are huge stipulations on what can be fed and what wormers can be used, etc. She provides organic hay to be fed.

        But it just sounds like your BO is worried about GMOs, which is your own personal decision.

        Comment

        • Original Poster

          #24
          Originally posted by TBRedHead View Post
          There's a huge difference between organic, and organic. If your BO is trying to run a organic farm on the side, which it doesn't sound like she is, she's in the right to ask for organic feed and such. I was talking with a friend who runs a certified organic farm and recently opened up horse boarding, there are huge stipulations on what can be fed and what wormers can be used, etc. She provides organic hay to be fed

          But it just sounds like your BO is worried about GMOs, which is your own personal decision.
          The barn owner would like to make her farm all organic and would prefer natural wormers. But I am very apprehensive in changing those.

          Comment

          • Original Poster

            #25
            Originally posted by TBRedHead View Post
            There's a huge difference between organic, and organic. If your BO is trying to run a organic farm on the side, which it doesn't sound like she is, she's in the right to ask for organic feed and such. I was talking with a friend who runs a certified organic farm and recently opened up horse boarding, there are huge stipulations on what can be fed and what wormers can be used, etc. She provides organic hay to be fed

            But it just sounds like your BO is worried about GMOs, which is your own personal decision.
            The barn owner would like to make her farm all organic and would prefer natural wormers. But I am very apprehensive in changing those.

            Comment

            • Original Poster

              #26
              Originally posted by TBRedHead View Post
              There's a huge difference between organic, and organic. If your BO is trying to run a organic farm on the side, which it doesn't sound like she is, she's in the right to ask for organic feed and such. I was talking with a friend who runs a certified organic farm and recently opened up horse boarding, there are huge stipulations on what can be fed and what wormers can be used, etc. She provides organic hay to be fed

              But it just sounds like your BO is worried about GMOs, which is your own personal decision.
              The barn owner would like to make her farm all organic and would prefer natural wormers. But I am very apprehensive in changing those.

              Comment

              • Original Poster

                #27
                I finally switched to the organic feed a month ago but I see signs in them they may not be getting all of the minerals they need. I have the vet out in June to do teeth and will probably do a complete trace mineral test, and if that is okay I will probably test again in six months or so. In the meantime any safe oils or supplements to put some glow in there coat. Would organic flax oil be okay to feed to my horses? Or any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

                Comment


                • #28
                  Can you get just plain organic flax seed? It would probably cost more, but IIRC they sell it in the grocery store. I feed (non-organic) flax seed, a cup a day, and my horses all have soft, shiny coats.

                  How are you doing all these trace mineral tests? Hopefully you're not paying for hair analysis. Completely unvalidated and full of errors.
                  Click here before you buy.

                  Comment

                  • Original Poster

                    #29
                    Originally posted by deltawave View Post
                    Can you get just plain organic flax seed? It would probably cost more, but IIRC they sell it in the grocery store. I feed (non-organic) flax seed, a cup a day, and my horses all have soft, shiny coats.

                    How are you doing all these trace mineral tests? Hopefully you're not paying for hair analysis. Completely unvalidated and full of errors.

                    Can't remember the name of the test but you think the blood test is not accurate? Selenium is the main concern in our area I have had horses test low in the past ten years easy to supplement.

                    Comment


                    • #30
                      Selenium is the only blood test that I would ever consider using for looking at "minerals". For all the others, random serum levels are a very poor reflection of the actual reserves of a given mineral, assuming at least a basic state of good health and nutrition.
                      Click here before you buy.

                      Comment

                      • Original Poster

                        #31
                        Previous tests were all vitamins and minerals were within normal range. I switched his feed in April and his blood tests now show he is selenium and zinc deficient. I don't think there is anything wrong with the feed just that he has not been getting a large enough quantity. I needed organic supplement ASAP. I am very sad my boy is deficient

                        Comment


                        • #32
                          I don't know if they are available in Canada, but check out Advanced Biological Concepts: http://www.abcplus.biz/Home1.aspx?Id=Equine

                          They have a line of organic supplements: http://www.abcplus.biz/Home1.aspx?Id...quine_Products

                          There was a link to a Canadian line, but it didn't appear to have the organics. I haven't used it myself, but it sure has a lot of fans at the feed store I work at.
                          Last edited by WNT; Jul. 25, 2013, 10:57 PM. Reason: Punctuation fail
                          Leap, and the net will appear

                          Comment

                          Working...
                          X