• Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.



Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.

Outright inflammatory, vulgar, harassing, malicious or otherwise inappropriate statements and criminal charges unsubstantiated by a reputable news source or legal documentation will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 1/26/16)
See more
See less

what do the vets recommend these days for maintenance of chronic pain?

  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • #21
    I have been giving my 21 year old TB/WB mare 1/4 of a 227 mg Previcoxx tablet every day for the past 6 months. It has helped tremendously with her arthritis (I had thought I was going to have to put her down before we started her on this). I solved the problem of getting her to eat the "liver flavored" dog pill by cutting a wedge of apple, scooping out a small hole and inserting the pill. My mare gobbles it right down with no hesitation. Easy-peasy!


    • #22
      Originally posted by Pippigirl View Post
      I'm assuming she's talking about the 57mg pills. I have a bottle of Previcox for my beastie and it's the 57mg chewable tablet.
      Yes that's the one... sorry I wasn't specific. Thanks

      And my horse that gets 1 1/2 chew tabs a day is 18 hands and 2000 lbs.
      Live in the sunshine.
      Swim in the sea.
      Drink the wild air.


      • #23

        found this on another thread about if it's legal to compete...

        Firocoxib (Equioxx and Previcox) is legal at a max dosage of 45.5g/1000lb administered >12 hours prior to competition.
        Live in the sunshine.
        Swim in the sea.
        Drink the wild air.


        • #24
          Originally posted by doublesstable View Post

          found this on another thread about if it's legal to compete...

          Firocoxib (Equioxx and Previcox) is legal at a max dosage of 45.5g/1000lb administered >12 hours prior to competition.
          Keep in mind that studies in equines have only been done with the Equioxx preparation, and not with Previcox. While firocoxib in Previcox form SHOULD clear just like firocoxib in Equioxx form, there's a chance that it won't.

          Were I using firocoxib to show on, I would absolutely use Equioxx, just to make sure I was strictly within the letter of the law of the medication rules.


          • #25
            I have seen a lot of those type of horses (just trying to stay pasture sound/maintain) do well on Previcoxx but I have to admit none of them had precisely the issues your mare has.
            "The Son Dee Times" "Sustained" "Somerset" "Franklin Square"


            • Original Poster

              thanks everyone!
              good to hear all the positive stories.
              our clinic visit is the first week of february. we'll see what the vet thinks will work best on her condition.
              TQ(Trail Queen) \"Learn How to Ride or Move Over!!\" Clique


              • #27
                Originally posted by goodhors View Post
                She was never nasty about dropping the pill, but I learned I had to SEE that she swallowed it. I could find that tiny bit of dropped pill in the aisle, not in stall bedding. I put it way back on her tongue, gave her some carrot, while standing in the aisle. Then a second and third bit of carrot to eat to keep her swallowing. I figured if she hadn't dropped the pill part by then she had eaten it. She DID sort the pill out of her wet beet pulp and not eat it.
                Haha I have a Christopher Columbus too, he can not only separate a tiny Previcoxx out of his wet beet pulp but everything else it's mixed with too!

                Here's what worked for him (i.e., me)... stick the pull firmly into a Stud Muffin. My boy is so wild about Stud Muffins, I could probably put bute into it and he'd eat the Muffin. Try it.
                "I have never let my schooling interfere with my education." - Mark Twain


                • Original Poster

                  just a quick update - we were given previcox and told to try it for a week. if it works great, if it doesn't then we'll have to try and manage with bute. bute, of course, works v. well, but our lameness vet is worried about the impact long term use would have on my mare's kidneys.

                  i'm keeping fingers crossed that previcox does the job.
                  TQ(Trail Queen) \"Learn How to Ride or Move Over!!\" Clique


                  • #29
                    Keep in mind that firocoxib is not quite like bute in that it doesn't work immediately. It must build up which is why some vets recommend a loading dose. Good luck, I hope it helps your mare!
                    "There is no secret so close as that between a rider and his horse." - Robert Smith Surtees


                    • #30
                      I read recently that the Foxden Equine folks have a new supplement called Ligand3 that is intended for helping with ligament issues. I am not affiliated with/have no financial interest in the company, just happen to be very impressed with their products. (I had a heck of a time finding it . I could not find it on their website. Their new web design sucks, big time! But I did find a link to it on another website.) http://gettyequinenutrition.biz/Products/ligand3.htm
                      RIP Sasha, best dog ever, pictured shortly before she died, Death either by euthanasia or natural causes is only the end of the animal inhabiting its body; I believe the spirit lives on.


                      • #31
                        Originally posted by marta View Post
                        good point. i could use it for my own back pain...
                        I do. I got a big bottle of it from my orthopaedist. Works great.
                        Brothers and sisters, I bid you beware
                        Of giving your heart to a dog to tear.
                        -Rudyard Kipling


                        • #32
                          I have no other suggestions to pain medications than those listed above offered by the wealth of knowledge on this board.

                          I had a gelding with chronic ligament pain. I used low-intensity ultrasound and this really helped his pain and made his life far more comfortable to the point where he needed only small doses medication help on certain days if he did too much self-exercising the day prior. Therapy ultrasound is even lower intensity than shock wave, the whole purpose of both is to help improve blood flow to the area. The problem with ligaments is they have little blood flow.

                          In injuries, medical practitioners will always say - areas with high blood flow heal fast and any scar tissue is readily remodelled and (bulk) reduced over time - bones, muscles, skin. Areas with low blood flow heal very slow and have an extremely high propensity for excessive accumulation of scar tissue that does not remodel and reduce in bulk over time - ligaments and tendons. Low-intensity ultrasound will help all areas improve with blood flow and pain control, but are especially helpful for even ligaments and tendons which are never the same after damage.

                          You could also put your horse on 3000 mg of human-grade Omega-3. The theory equine scientists are currently working on is the effects are fairly similar in to that of people - antiinflammatory properties, ulcer prevention in conjunction with NSAID use, and greater vascular perfusion body-wide. Horses don't need huge doses as they metabolize these things different than humans. 3000 mg is a human dose, but is plenty o' plenty for a horse. It takes at least a month before you start to see any effect whatsoever. I am using this dosage for a horse and she's been on it now for a while. It was about a month before I noticed improved comfort. She's a very big girl, so I'm considering raising her dosage to 1 more capsule to 4000 mg. I use the human grade purified (from heavy metals) fish Omega-3 and melt in a small amount of hot water (do not microwave these - you destroy the properties!) and pouring over her feed. She eats it despite the fishy smell.

                          You could also rub on Absorbine JUNIOR - the people version - it has lower intensity than the senior. Some horses get burnt with senior.

                          These above measures would be in addition to whatever medications you decide to try. Sometimes these above measures can help you reduce the dosage of medication.
                          Practice! Patience! Persistence!


                          • Original Poster


                            Thanks for the suggestion regarding the omega 3's. I will look into that. At the moment we are trying to get her to eat her tendon/ligament supplement from the Xie Institute (she used to eat it, then she was off it for a while and now she's refusing to eat it). Once she's on that, I will try and add some omega 3's, too.


                            We did the loading dose of Previxoc on day 1 (3 pills). So far she does not look any worse off. Still watching her carefully. I would REALLY like this to work. I worry about her daily so if I could at least not worry about the damage the pain killers are doing to her kidneys, it'd be nice
                            TQ(Trail Queen) \"Learn How to Ride or Move Over!!\" Clique


                            • #34
                              I have my old (24) retired guy on Equioxx 2x week. He has an old suspensory injury that occasionally acts up, in addition to general arthritis. When the injury flares he needs to be on more aggressive pain management, but for general aches and pains Equiox has been a life saver (literally, I thought I was going to have to put him down) We started out giving it every day, and then slowly cut back over a period of about 3 months to twice a week. The only problem is he feel so much better that he now thinks he can gallop around again and ends up hurting himself! Twice a week seems to do the trick for him, I don't notice any change on his non med days, but if we go past twice a week there is a noticeable difference in his comfort level.


                              • #35

                                "Simple: Breeding,Training, Riding". Wolfram Wittig.