• Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.

Announcement

Collapse
1 of 2 < >

Event Announcements now available FREE to all registered users

We just reconfigured the Event Announcements forum to be available as a free service for all registered forum users. See the thread stuck at the top of that forum for more information.
2 of 2 < >

Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.

Outright inflammatory, vulgar, harassing, malicious or otherwise inappropriate statements and criminal charges unsubstantiated by a reputable news source or legal documentation will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 1/26/16)
See more
See less

Slow Muscle Development - thoughts?

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Slow Muscle Development - thoughts?

    Thanks in advance for reading.

    I am working with a 12 year old appendix mare. My hopes for her are simply low level dressage. Prior to picking her up, she spent approx. 5 years sitting in a field just being a horse. Not neglected or mistreated, just hanging out.

    So I have put 1 month into conditioning her and I'm operating with my normal plan, but she's just simply not developing muscle tone as is the norm. She's also stiff when we get going and takes longer than average to warm up.

    I have addressed with the vet, and all exams/tests are totally normal, so we are not dealing with any joint issues (x-rays were crystal clear and joints are in perfect shape) and no metabolic or neurologic issues. So that leads me to think something is missing from her diet/daily intake or exercise routine that is making muscle development slow for her.

    She's currently eating 2 quarts of TC lite per day, on pasture for 10 hours a day, and eats 3 flakes of coastal bermuda at night in her stall. She is in great weight, and she does have muscle tone, it's just not developing at the rate that I normally see. I am riding her 3 days a week for 30 minutes in the ring, walk trot canter. 1 day a week, we go out on trails to walk trot for an hour, and 1 day a week, we lunge for 20 minutes to help flexibility and balance.

    I have been researching supplements and I have smartpak sending me a taste test of SmartMuscle Mass to try, but figured I'd pick the brains of COTH as well.

    Vet suggested above supp, but also said she's happy to check all vitamin/mineral levels, though there are no other symptoms to show that she is truly deficient in anything.

    She was overweight when I picked her up, not obese, but definitely had pounds to shed. She has done that and is at a great weight for her size, so perhaps it was just that the first month was spent burning fat rather than building muscle? Any other thoughts or ideas? Maybe she's one that needs some more intensive work? I wanted to take it easy given her fitness level, but maybe she is more fit than I had thought...
    Last edited by FindersKeepers; Nov. 29, 2012, 09:11 PM. Reason: poor spelling
    Strong promoter of READING the entire post before responding.

  • #2
    I do not think one month is really that much time to turn a fat, flabby into developed lean muscle.

    But things you can look at is Vit E and lysine levels of her ration.

    Personally in my horses and especially my hard keeper there is nothing better than the addition of whole roasted soybean to their ration when in harder work and I want lean muscle.

    Stiff? Stiff as in possibly OA in it early stages? Pentosan if that is the case and the sooner the better.

    Comment


    • #3
      IMO, one month is not a lot of time. I think your routine is appropriate for a horse coming back to work after "hanging out" for so long. It's quite likely she was "burning fat" at first -- now maybe she can get down to business and get ripped and toned!

      I think you'll start seeing development over the next two or three months. Can you do hill work with her and/or cavalletti grids? I think they're wonderful for helping develop muscle.

      Some take longer than others. I did use a muscle building supplement on my gelding as he recovered from an injury and was moving up to Second Level. Maybe one of those products would help?

      Comment

      Working...
      X