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What is this?! Update: Cancer - not Cancer....post 50

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  • #21
    Yikes. Poor boy!

    Best of luck with sorting this out.


    • #22
      Well i dont have details yet, but this am pony's legs were swollen and he may need surgery for a possible bone fragment. Not sure exactly what is going on, but it isnt strangles like we suspected. Ill post more for her when i know. Jingles needed!!
      Last edited by Cheval Gris; Oct. 15, 2012, 03:30 PM. Reason: Details
      Honey Badger don't give a s*#^!

      "..a three-day event is not a test of speed and endurance, it is a test of character" ~JW


      • #23
        Jingling things improve and actual cause can be determined.


        • Original Poster

          Well we spent about 3 hours with a specialist from Auburn.

          And got nothin'.

          Lots of ultrasound, aspirated the side - nothing. The chest only showed old red blood cells. Did see an abscess in the shoulder (pec) but was about 4cm in.

          Took tissue from the sore side. Pic here:
          Looked like nothing I have seen before. Vet thought it was weird as well. Pathology should be back at the end of the week.

          Pulled blood again. Nothing new from last report at the end of Sept.

          This was a new shape yesterday:

          I just have it smeared with icthamol to try to pull whatever is in there out.

          Bubba could really use some good CoTH jingles.


          • #25
            Bubba! Jingles for Bubba with some nice bay fur.

            I think y'all have a foreign body way in there with a systemic infection set up.
            The armchair saddler
            Politically Pro-Cat


            • #26
              No idea, but wanted to send some jingles!!


              • #27
                Jingles for Mr. Bubba!!


                • #28
                  Jingles for Bubba!

                  That is, indeed, quite strange. Don't you just hate not knowing and finding out that you're not the only one????

                  As others have mentioned, he might have a DEEP foreign body.

                  Several years ago I worked with a 2 y.o. racehorse who had a funny pimple on her chest. The trainer gave it a squeeze and got some pus. Poor little filly went berserk so we knew that something was going on.

                  Long story short, we took her to Cornell and she had multiple, deep tracks of pus. Exploration of the pockets yielded copious pus and some bits of wood, so we figured that she had run through or into a fence. She returned to the farm and was placed in isolation and was given a course of antibiotics that was extremely dangerous to the human administering it (me!) - can't remember the name - so I took meticulous precautions to minimize exposure. She eventually recovered but it was a LONG, difficult road.

                  I hope you find some answers soon HBF! Hang in there Bubba.


                  • #29
                    Jingles for Bubba! Add me to the legions of curious wondering what the heck is in there .
                    "I think animal testing is a terrible idea, they get all nervous and give silly answers."
                    -fry & laurie


                    • Original Poster

                      Went to see the Bubbs yesterday. He is currently not at my farm as we thought a quarantine might be in order.

                      So here are some pics. He looks horrible. Positives are that he still is eating well, no temp, and heart rate and resp. normal.

                      The chest is HUGE. Biggest it's ever been. I think it's proabaly due to poking with needles on Monday.



                      There is pitting edema on his midline. Cheval Gris is a RN (and my bestie) and says that in humans this is a sign of heart failure. He's only 9.
                      And he has never had it here until recently.

                      The lump between the legs has moved - my guess it is what is hanging on his midline now:

                      Waiting on pathology. Hopefully we get that today. If not, then definitely should be back tomorrow.

                      Thanks for letting me chronicle this here. Hoping maybe someone has seen this before.


                      • #31
                        Mystery to me, too, but I'm jingling like heck for Bubba.


                        • #32
                          WOW jingling super hard for Bubba!


                          • #33
                            JINGLES for Bubba! Really hope something comes back on pathology report.
                            Green Cove Springs, FL


                            • #34
                              Jingling for Bubba.


                              • #35
                                Anybody had experience with endocarditis or anything of that nature? I ask bc of the location when all this started (around his heartgirth and chest-abcesses). He has lost a good 100 or so lbs over the last two weeks. Pitting edema to front legs and abd. Left hind is tight walkin across right hind too.
                                Honey Badger don't give a s*#^!

                                "..a three-day event is not a test of speed and endurance, it is a test of character" ~JW


                                • #36
                                  No direct experience but I have a gelding w/ atrial fib and a murmur; his heart issues haven't changed much in five years, but here's what I was told to look for re conjestive heart failure:

                                  Edema, chest leg and stomach areas. (no reference to pus...)
                                  Lethargy, or depression
                                  Cold legs - due to poor circulation
                                  Labored breathing

                                  This sounds more like some other problem, but I barely qualify as an armchair vet

                                  Jingles big time for this guy; I can't imagine the worrying over all this!
                                  We don't get less brave; we get a bigger sense of self-preservation........


                                  • #37
                                    Well so far the muscle biopsy has cultured back probable pseudomonas and ecoli. Thats all we have at the moment
                                    Honey Badger don't give a s*#^!

                                    "..a three-day event is not a test of speed and endurance, it is a test of character" ~JW


                                    • #38
                                      Can he be scoped to see if he maybe ingested something that penetrated the eosophagus lower down? I'm sorry I don't remember details as it was a long time ago but I recall a similar problem with a young gelding and this is how it presented. I'm pulling for your guy and jingling loudly you get some blinking answers soon!!


                                      • #39
                                        Pitting edema and pseudomonas are both scary developments I hope the pieces of the puzzle start coming together into something recognizable soon, so you can solve this mystery. Big jingles for answers and improvement!


                                        • #40
                                          Such a scary puzzle I hope they find answers soon!! Huge jingles!!