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PLEASE HELP!! MY HORSE HAS NO HOOF WALL!!! ADVICE NEEDED!!

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  • PLEASE HELP!! MY HORSE HAS NO HOOF WALL!!! ADVICE NEEDED!!

    PLEASE HELP ME! I have been in HELL for the last 2 years with my mare Dutchess. He is a 16.3hh Dutch mare who is 13 yrs old. Here is where the trouble began. Up until about 2 years agom Dutchess had aways worn shoes. One day, she threw one of her front shoes, and ripped off a good chunk of her foot. I immediately called my farrier and he came out 3 days later. By that time, she had chipped more of her hoof wall off. He said that there was not enough wall to put a shoe on, and that we should pull all her shoes, trim her, and let her feet "toughen up." I suggested gluing the shoes on, and he said no. Pulling it was the best idea. I have been using this farrer for years, and he's always done a great job. I just think this was a bad judgement call. So, I went with his advice, we pulled all of her shoes, trimmed her, and waited for her feet to toughen up and grow enough hoof wall to put a shoe on. It has now be 2 YEARS, and there is STILL no hoof wall. I have her on supplements, and paint her feet daily with hoof dressings. All of her feet chipped off, and now she is on her soles, and is lame. I have not been able to ride her in 2 years. She still have no hoof wall. I am at my whit's end. She's an amazing show horse, but she is useless. I really need some help. What can I do to get her feet to come back! I have attached a photo of her feet now. As you can see, NO WALL. 2 years later, NO HOOF WALL. PLEASE HELP!!

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/8844804...in/photostream

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    Take your thread, with pictures, to the www.horseshoes.com forum for good farrier assistance.

    Order a pair (or 2 pair if back hooves are as bad) of soft-ride hoof boots. They are NOT like any other hoof boots. See eventgroupie2 for info on them. www.soft-ride.com I think is the website. BEst to call and Debbie will return your call. Boots can fedex ship over night for extra $, and mine were well worth it.

    Next order a case of crossapol. It is cheaper by the case. It is applied to hoof wall and sole as well, and toughens them within 4 months or so. I get mine from georgia farrier in jasper ga. They have a website. I used crossapol for 2 yrs, and then I now use durable just on the soles.

    My WB has hooves now because my farrier had me buy the crossapol and FOLLOW DIRECTIONS for use. That's why one or two bottles are a waste of money. You'll need a lot, and need to use it. It's a lot cheaper by the 12 bottle case.

    I found the soft ride info on event groupie's thread. She was right. You can keep them on your horse 24/7. No rubs, and then wait for hooves to grow out.

    I used 3 or 4 hoof supplements while trying to grow out hooves.

    Oh, and get a good farrier.

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    • #3
      Can you post more photos? Bottom side of hoof/sole shots?

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      • #4
        2 year is about 1 year and 11 months longer than I'd wait. Get some soft-ride boots immediately, then work on finding a farrier that will help her out. I'd consider taking her into your nearest hospital that has a resident farrier so you can sort out what if any underlying issues/confounding issues the horse has.

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        • #5
          I have the German soft hooved 4 white hooved shelly walled hooves thin soles horse. I have more x-rays in 12 yrs than most people have. Been there, and found that soft-rides and crossapol and then now durable are the way to go. Altho he's chipping a little by his nails now, and I asked my farrier Friday if we should go back to crossapol for a while.

          Change farriers. WBs have bad hooves, except the traks. Which I read in european books AFTER I bought mine.

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          • #6
            IMNTBCHO you need a different farrier. From what is visible in the photo there is no reason that a shoe could not be amended to those hooves. Two years and no improvements? Where I come from, as a courtesy, one gets kissed when s/he is getting screwed.

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            • #7
              I had a horse with a similar issue. To the farriers out there how about equicasting or wrapping the foot and then nailing a shoe on?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Rick Burten View Post
                IMNTBCHO you need a different farrier. From what is visible in the photo there is no reason that a shoe could not be amended to those hooves. Two years and no improvements? Where I come from, as a courtesy, one gets kissed when s/he is getting screwed.
                LOL yes kissing. And having to pay to get screwed?

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                • #9
                  IMNTBCHO you need a different farrier. From what is visible in the photo there is no reason that a shoe could not be amended to those hooves. Two years and no improvements? Where I come from, as a courtesy, one gets kissed when s/he is getting screwed.
                  Yes. That.
                  Patty Stiller CNBBT,CNBF,CLS, CE
                  Natural Balance Certified Lameness Specialist ,instructor.
                  www.hoofcareonline.com

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                  • #10
                    The Soft Ride boots are amazing. I highly recommend them.

                    I think they may be the perfect thing to protect her feet and let them grow without breaking off. Just make sure you keep an eye to make sure they aren't rubbing anywhere.
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                      Hi! Thank you all for your help. Now, in all honest.. If I purchase the soft-boots, and the crossapol, how long are we talking? months? Years? I don't know how much more of this I can take. I have spent thousands of dollars and hours, and I'm about at the point where I am considering just giving her away. Any ideas how long it will take using crossapol and soft-boots?

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                      • #12
                        You just need a competent farrier.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Tyne View Post
                          . . .Any ideas how long it will take using crossapol and soft-boots?
                          Don't know about boots. It would take me about an hour using shoes.

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                          • #14
                            Get a competant farrier and get shoes back on her if you want to get back to riding in the near future. Being barefoot is obviosly not toughening anything up.
                            Blog: My journey with two OTTB's

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                            • #15
                              Really? New farrier. 2 years lame? A simple set of casts would sure buy you soem hoof wall provided she hasnt got any white line issues or foot funk happening.

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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by Tom Bloomer View Post
                                You just need a competent farrier.
                                Glad someone said it. FWIW I got a OTTB a year ago with no feet and no walls, although she wasn't lame just very bad feet condition. A year later I have a horse that still keeps her shoes on (unless she goes balistic in the field and overreaches) Both my farrier and vet said to use Farrier's Formula and alternately using hoof paint/hoof oil. She still has very little wall, but her shoes are on and she's sound, I credit my farrier with her great feet.

                                As an aside my farrier spent a lot of time talking to me about nutrition which I knew most of, but since he's pretty comprehensive and we went over it again.

                                (I don't know what crossapol is so I'm going to look it up.)
                                RIP Kelly 1977-2007 "Wither thou goest, so shall I"

                                "To tilt when you should withdraw is Knightly too."

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                                • #17
                                  It took 2 years for you to watch this horse's hooves get like this and you don't want to spend months getting the hooves back in shape? You followed the advice of someone and didn't switch farriers before now?

                                  I'm done.

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                                  • #18
                                    OP, when you hire a new farrier you can discuss with them what they think your horse will need. They will have your horse's hoof in their hand so they will best be able to help you. First step, find a new farrier.

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                                    • #19
                                      There's plenty of foot to get a shoe on - find someone who actually knows how to do it.

                                      And stop putting dressing on the feet - you're not helping them get harder, at all, and are probably contributing to chipping by making them softer.

                                      I'm curious - what have you spent thousands of $$ on when it doesn't seem like you've had anything done?
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                                      • #20
                                        All you need is a competent farrier to get shoes on those hoofs. I would of long ago fired the one you have now. Two years of spending money on no results.

                                        Get a farrier who knows what their doing and quit painting her hoofs with goop that does nothing any way. You dont need to give her away you need to give away your current farrier.

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