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Cryptorchidism and AQHA

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    Cryptorchidism and AQHA

    Can anyone who's familiar with the AQHA registration process tell me whether or not there has to be documented proof of removal of both testes in the case of a cryptorchid colt in order for said colt to be registered a gelding? Or if only one testes was able to be removed, does there have to be documentation of the retained one that goes on the reg papers?

    Horse in question is a 2007 model if that helps to determine the answer.

    No idea but there is no such thing as only one being able to be removed in my opinion.
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      When i bought my horse as a stud i had him gelded and just sent in his papers along with a statement he was gelded. Never had to have proof both testes were removed. Also included date he was gelded. I also transfered ownership at same time.

      That was back in 2004 dont know if anything has changed since then.


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        The reason why I'm asking is that as observed by the BO, the horse was mounting mares he was turned out with, acting quite a bit like he knew what he was doing. He is a registered gelding, but no idea if he was proud cut or if he's retained a testicle. One of the mares is looking a bit rotund four months later. She may just be chubby since she's the ruler of the roost and not opposed to driving the others away from the food so she gets dibs. The mare's owner is going to have her checked out to see if its that or something else causing the weight gain.

        I do realize that there's certain temperature requirements for sperm to be viable and that normally a testicle retained in the abdominal cavity would be too warm for them to live but I've also heard of the remote possibility of viable sperm if the testicle is in the inguinal canal.

        Are the testosterone tests pretty determinate in figuring out if he has a retained testicle? It would actually explain a whole lot about this horse if he was running higher than a "normal" gelding.


          Many geldings will mount mares.
          If I had one that habitually did so, I would not turn it out in a mixed herd.

          If you're concerned about a retained testicle and pregnant mare:
          a) run a hormonal assay on the suspect gelding
          b)ultrasound the possibly preganant mare.

          I don't see how this should be the AQHA's concern.
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            Originally posted by Ghazzu View Post
            I don't see how this should be the AQHA's concern.
            It isn't directly. I was just wondering what kind of paperwork had to be provided to register the horse as a gelding -- that is, can I trust that his registration papers are true and he is indeed a gelding in the fullest sense and not a cryptorchid stallion.

            If the AQHA doesn't require anything, then yes, I'm definitely going to get his testosterone levels tested.

            Since the incident occurred, he is no longer turned out with any mares or adjacent to any. He's now either with other geldings or by himself.


              Well first off, an ethical vet would never remove just one. So, if only one were removed, you wouldn't be dealing with an ethical vet, or DIY castrator. As such, any paperwork they submitted would be considered suspect too.

              But of course mistakes can be made, so if there were paperwork it would be only as good as the paper it were written on. Quickest way to find out the truth is a blood test.


                I owned an APHA "gelding."

                We later had his second testicle removed laparoscopically when he was 5.

                So what the papers say could mean diddly squat.


                  As a show manager I can stamp original registration papers 'gelding' and have the owner fill out a form to send to AQHA with the show results to report the update. The horse does not have to be on the show grounds, does not have to be inspected, just the paperwork completed.

                  Basically if an owner says the horse is now a gelding, he becomes a gelding in the AQHA database.