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  • Apple cider vinegar for rain rot

    Thanks to nearly a week of heavy rain, my boy has rain rot on the top of his bum. He is out 24/7 with access to trees for shelter. His coat is shiny and healthy, and he is in good weight, in work 5 days a week, and on a great feeding program. This is the first time he has had this problem.

    A groom at my barn recommended using apple cider vinegar for three days, and that would clear it up. I trust her opinion, but I figured I'd go to you lovely COTHers for a second opinion. Does ACV work? Today I scrubbed at it with Ivory dish soap and dried the area very well after. Do I still need to scrub the area before spraying on the vinegar?
    Proud mother to Matt, a 18 year-old TB gelding.

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    Never heard of using ACV, so I'll be interested to hear others chime in. That would certainly be a cheap and easy solution!! I have a mixture of Iodine, baby oil, and hydrogen peroxide that works really well.

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    • #3
      Just put a few ounces of Nolvasan solution in a bucket of warm water with shampoo and wash horsie. Voila - all gone.
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      • #4
        Yes, I have successfully used ACV for rain rot--it works even better if you put a little tea tree oil in it. I do think it will take longer than three days, though.
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        • #5
          My vet usually recommends dish soap--Dawn, Palmolive, that kind of thing.

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          • #6
            I have a friend who recommends apple cider vinegar for everything! I haven't tried it. I have used Head n'Shoulders with great results. One treatment did it.
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            • #7
              I gently pick any scabs to let the oozy stuff out, spray with a 50/50solution of water and table salt, allow to dry and then damp the area with ACV. Clears it up pretty quick.

              Blue Kote and Schreiner's also work well, but I prefer the ACV.

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              • #8
                Vinegar, of any sort, works well on fungus. It's the acidity that makes the skin environment in hospitable to fungus and possibly other gunk. Works quite well for Athlete's Foot also.

                chicamuxen

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                • #9
                  I have gotten into the habit of powdering backs with Gold Bond when we get weeks of endless showers before rainrot starts. Once the valve is turned on around here everything is damp for days and days and days.

                  But I'll keep ACV in mind. Thanks for the tip.

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                  • #10
                    Muck Itch works better and faster than any product for rain rot that I have tried. And I have tried many, many products.
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                    • #11
                      BTW I would not pick off the scabs, you don't want to break the skin open leaving room for infection. I like to treat rain rot the same way Equibrit does. After about a day or so the scabs should come off easily with a soft curry.
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                      • #12
                        Don't pick the scabs. Let them soften and fall off. I use a 3 way mix of Novalsan, ACV and Mineral Oil. Softens those scabs up and off they go.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Equibrit View Post
                          Just put a few ounces of Nolvasan solution in a bucket of warm water with shampoo and wash horsie. Voila - all gone.
                          This.
                          I'd avoid baby oil, as letting the lesions be exposed to air be dry is important.
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                          ...just settin' on the Group W bench.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by chicamux View Post
                            Vinegar, of any sort, works well on fungus. It's the acidity that makes the skin environment in hospitable to fungus and possibly other gunk. Works quite well for Athlete's Foot also.

                            chicamuxen
                            Rain rot is bacterial, not fungal.
                            (Dermatophilus congolensis)
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                            ...just settin' on the Group W bench.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by BoyleHeightsKid View Post
                              BTW I would not pick off the scabs, you don't want to break the skin open leaving room for infection. I like to treat rain rot the same way Equibrit does. After about a day or so the scabs should come off easily with a soft curry.
                              Removing the crusts is important.
                              You already *have* an infection.

                              (And my dermatology professor is saying in my head, "they're *crusts*, not scabs. A scab is someone who crosses a picket line.")
                              "It's like a Russian nesting doll of train wrecks."--CaitlinandTheBay

                              ...just settin' on the Group W bench.

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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by PeteyPie View Post
                                I have a friend who recommends apple cider vinegar for everything! .
                                that's because time+ changing conditions makes stuff go away. Add anything that doesn't make it worse and time+ changing conditions and it still goes away.
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                                • #17
                                  Rain rot is a bacteria which superficially resembles a fungus. Any bacteria will have a range of pH in which it can live, and adding a lot of acid (aka vinegar) can kill it. There may also be other compounds in apple cider vinegar which are bacteriostatic but that we don't know about. However acid is also irritating to wounds, so your horse may or may not tolerate it straight applied. Cutting it with water cuts the potency (no matter what the homeopaths say!).

                                  A simpler solution is to use something that is designed to be BOTH A: bactericidal, and B: safe for use on mucous membranes and skin. This is known as an "antiseptic", this is different from a "disinfectant" (eg. bleach) which is NOT safe for mucous membranes. You can choose from any commercially available antiseptics and apply them following the instructions. My personal favorite for my very sensitive yearling was chlorhexidine AKA nolvasan AKA hibiclens, which can be bought at a drug store in a generic version, diluted, and used as a scrub or a shampoo. Just remember to dry well, because some bacteria will be able to survive whatever you put on by hiding in clumps of crust or hair or dirt, and then any leftover water (sans antiseptic) will stimulate their growth and you are back where you started. Good luck, rain rot is a pain!
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                                  • #18
                                    My vet recommends dandruff shampoo and it has worked great any time I see a little gunk starting to form on my mares legs, neck, or butt from sweat and pasture dew; the shampoo clears it up with just a couple uses. If its severe case my vet recommends antibiotics.

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                                    • #19
                                      FYI - the best thing to pick scabs with is a flea comb! I think I read that tip somewhere on the COTH boards a few years back and it works amazingly well! It almost makes the job enjoyable
                                      Cindy

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                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by Mali View Post
                                        FYI - the best thing to pick scabs with is a flea comb! I think I read that tip somewhere on the COTH boards a few years back and it works amazingly well! It almost makes the job enjoyable
                                        Best if you soften the crusts by washing first.
                                        Also, dispose of them--they're loaded with the infectious organism.
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                                        ...just settin' on the Group W bench.

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