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Ruptured peroneous tertius ligament

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    #21
    If anyone is interested I have kept a video diary. I have uploaded 4 videos to YouTube one taken at 1 week post injury, 21/2 weeks, 41/2 weeks and 71/2 weeks. I will upload another at the weekend with him moving freely in the paddock
    Just search my username tracy6983 on YouTube (you may need to put a put a space between tracy and 6983) sorry I don't know how to share the links :/

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    • #22
      How cool! He looks great! Keep his updated!
      I love cats, I love every single cat....
      So anyway I am a cat lover
      And I love to run.

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      • #23
        If that's the ligament I'm thinking of (back of hock?) I know of 2 horses this happened to and one did it twice! both made full recoveries - I think they were on stall rest for a 2-3 months perhaps more sorry i can't remember the time frame. With one horse the owner kept her in stall and layup longer than vet said she needed as she wanted to ensure full recovery.

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        • #24
          The PT runs down the front of the hind leg, connecting the stifle to the hock, and is what makes them flex or extend at the same time
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          • #25
            Here are your links He looks good!!

            4.5 weeks post injury

            7.5 weeks post injury
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            • #26
              Somehow missed this thread. One of my horses tore his peroneous tertius on his left hind leg about 6 or 7 years ago.... looong recovery, but long story short, he made a full recovery on it... and then had to retire at 12 for a series of unrelated injuries But yes, like other posters have said, totally possible to come back from!

              Glad to hear your boy is doing well!!
              Last edited by JSjumper; Sep. 11, 2012, 05:10 PM.
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              • Original Poster

                #27
                Latest video from the weekend, 10 weeks post injury, 5th time in the paddock

                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjiGL...e_gdata_player

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                • Original Poster

                  #28
                  Well another successful vet visit to Flynn, walking and trotting up well. We've got to carry on with the turnout for another month and as long as nothing untoward happens in that time I should be able to start work under saddle after the next visit!!! Happy days the vet is amazed at his progress and just wants him to take another month to find his way and build the strength in the leg. The physio is here again today and she will basically carry on until she feels she can't do anymore for him. That has done wonders in aiding his recovery. So onwards and upwards and let's hope he has a good month *

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                  • #29
                    Fantastic I too gave my guy a few extra weeks for a comfort zone. Very happy for you!
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by JB View Post
                      Fantastic I too gave my guy a few extra weeks for a comfort zone. Very happy for you!
                      JB he only went and jumped a 5 bar gate out of the paddock today and took himself back to his stable!! Didn't like being out on his own! That horse is going to give me a heart attack! Physio checked him over fortunately no damage done! Will be going out with a nice quiet school pony hopefully that will appease him. On the plus side it's fab knowing he hasn't lost the will or ability to jump although it's NOT ideal to be doing it now! Lol

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                      • #31
                        LOL!! What a goob. That's a great great sign he's no worse off
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                          #32
                          Well another step forward!! Been given the thumbs up by the vet this morning to start work under saddle which is 15 mins a day in 'active' walk walk working up to 30 mins by the end of a week. The vet is back in 2 weeks and should be able to start introducing some trot work!!! Been 151/2 weeks since the accident so his progress has been amazing!! Love this horse

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                            Very happy for you
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                              #34
                              Well I survived my maiden voyage! Lol, Flynn was a bit 'fresh' tried napping to the arena gate a few times, obviously retirement mode is more appealing! I dug my heels in and pushed him away so we had a couple of mini bucks. More 'huffy' than threatening just wanted his own way. Haha but I let Claire The flatwork queen get on him and he was doing perfect leg yielding, rein back etc. he's tracking through evenly with both legs you honestly wouldn't know he just needs to get his head back into work mode and shift that belly!!!! Lol might save any hacking for a little bit longer yet tho!!! We're up and running

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                              • #35
                                If this were my horse there's no way I'd allow someone to ask for leg yields and rein backs just coming off an extended layup and serious injury like this.

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                                • #36
                                  I agree, please lay off any work other than forward for a while

                                  That's great that he's tracking evenly - it means there is a strong enough re-attachment that the tendon is fully functional. BUT, there's no way at this point it's a full re-attachment, and the more you ask of that leg right now, the more you are risking some tearing of the still-healing tissue.

                                  Walking, that's all. Forward. No back, no sideways. Walk for a good month - that will do a GREAT deal to keep that scar tissue building in a strong, cohesive manner, and will do a lot for building a base of fitness. Let him walk at his own pace for a week or 2, then start asking for a more forward and correct walk for a few more weeks - contact, good marching walk, back lifted, etc.

                                  Take your time An extra month or two spent on basic conditioning will be well worth it.
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                                    #37
                                    Originally posted by rcloisonne View Post
                                    If this were my horse there's no way I'd allow someone to ask for leg yields and rein backs just coming off an extended layup and serious injury like this.
                                    I'd just like to point out that this was all done in walk and as ADVISED to do by the Physio and the vet. The modern way of thinking as with human injury is to get the affected limb moving and bearing weight as soon as possible. He has been on daily turnout since the beginning of September. As I stated for the next 2 weeks everything is carried out in walk only, the Physio wants us to do rein back and leg yield. As you will see reading through this whole thread I have consistently done everything I can to ensure my boy has the best chance of making a full recovery, I WOULD NOT put him under any undue strain or risk of causing any further issues and would not carry out anything as a 'show off' manouver. My friend is a highly competent dressage instructor so when she is asking for rein back etc her aids are correct and he understands. She can also feel (as well as me being able to see from the ground) that he is able to move correctly laterally. Since he started his turnout we have also been doing in hand work (as per the physio's instructions) incorporating lateral movements to get him stepping over and backing him up so none of what he did last night was out if the blue cold turkey. I hope this clarifies things for you.

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                                    • #38
                                      But, there's a BIG difference between moving and weight bearing on straight lines, and asking for more torque and non-straight line weight-bearing on a still-healing tendon.

                                      You know from our conversations I'm all for starting some forced work as early as possible, but dang, I'm quite shocked someone would recommend starting right out with lateral work and rein-backs (which are hard on a healthy horse, not to mention one who's been out of work for 4 months) with a still-healing fully torn tendon. I realize it's not a weight-bearing tendon, but it's still very responsible for moving parts of the leg around.

                                      I realize you have to trust who you can trust, and we're the least likely ones to rise to the top, but just be careful and give all this some thought
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                                        Originally posted by JB View Post
                                        But, there's a BIG difference between moving and weight bearing on straight lines, and asking for more torque and non-straight line weight-bearing on a still-healing tendon.

                                        You know from our conversations I'm all for starting some forced work as early as possible, but dang, I'm quite shocked someone would recommend starting right out with lateral work and rein-backs (which are hard on a healthy horse, not to mention one who's been out of work for 4 months) with a still-healing fully torn tendon. I realize it's not a weight-bearing tendon, but it's still very responsible for moving parts of the leg around.

                                        I realize you have to trust who you can trust, and we're the least likely ones to rise to the top, but just be careful and give all this some thought
                                        I totally appreciate what you are saying JB and believe me there is no one more cautious than myself about asking this horse to do anything to hinder his recovery. However neither the vet, Physio or specialist have let Flynn or myself down as yet so I can only assume they know what they are doing, how Flynn is doing in his recovery and what he needs to be doing. All I can say is for the last 5 mins Claire rode him he was relaxed, showed no tension or resistance and moved perfectly on both legs.

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                                          We can start trotting!! Basically over the next month it's all about building his muscle and his fitness. Just 10 minutes worth of trot work inter spaced over 40 minutes worth of schooling to start, building the flat work up to an hour over a month and gradually increasing the time in trot. The vet said he will tire quickly to start with while trotting (although he said this won't be anything to do with the leg just his fitness) but it's like any fitness regime he'll get better fairly quickly. So a month of walk and trot work before he is seen again. Physio not back for a month now either so very happy with where we are at

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