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  • Reviews on Equi-bone?

    Has anyone tried Equi-bone or know of any scientific studies that support supplementation with Equi-bone?

  • #2
    Bumping this up because I would also like to know if this is the miracle supplement like I have heard.

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    • #3
      If you mean Equi-bone from TLC Animal Nutrition, yes, I've used it. Twice. With amazing results.

      The first time was on my mare. I got her as a 3 year old with an old, poorly healed fracture of the cannon bone in her hind leg. With proper nutrition, it healed, but I knew she'd end up with arthritis later on down the line. Then 3 years later, she was kicked in the field and rebroke the same leg, right below the old break. It healed with stall rest. But then fast forward 5 years later, at age 11, she was starting to get really uncomfortablely lame behind in that leg. She has always had calcium deposits around the breaks, the worst one was almost 3 inches "tall". The vet said it's arthritis from the fractures, but adequan/legend wouldn't have much affect because it wasn't a joint. My friend Clare, who owns TLC, happened to come by to look at our new foals, and I mentioned my mare to her. She said, here, try this supplement we have, it can't hurt, although since the injuries are so old, it may not have much affect. 4 month later, my mare was completely (!) sound to the point that I can RIDE her again. I was just hoping for her to be comfortable in the pasture. The 3" calcium deposit, is now less than 1 inch high. That was 2 years ago, and she is still sound.

      The second time was on our stallion (prospect at the time). We bought him off the race track knowing he had had a chip removed from his knee. He was "mostly sound" as they say, but had some heat in his knee and some residual filling. The chip had been removed as a 3 year old and he was almost 5 when we got him. We weren't planning on riding him if he wasn't sound enough, since we were buying him to breed anyway. We had the knee x-rayed, large calcium deposit and the beginnings of arthritis in the joint. We immediately put him on Equi-bone, and within 2 weeks, the heat and filling were both less. At the end of 6 weeks, the heat was gone, and the filling was barely noticeable. At the end of 8 weeks he was sound again. We went ahead and finished out 6 months of Equi-bone with him. I've been riding him off and on and he's stayed sound. Come this fall, I'm going to start him in dressage training.

      It's a bit pricey, but I say it's worth trying, depending on the issue your horse is having. If you aren't sure, call TLC and talk to Clare. She can help you decide wether to try it or not. I'm not a "supplement" person. I'm very skeptical unless I can see a real, measureable difference.

      Sheila

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      • #4
        My vet just recommended this for my thin soled TB.
        Is it ever locally distributed? Or only from the TLC website?

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        • #5
          Not available except online or I think they have a 800 number. I'm pretty sure it's free shipping though.

          Sheila

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            #6
            Wow- Chestnut Run- GREAT testimonial! Kgro632: did you end up trying it?? Did it help??

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              #7
              bumping up this thread- anyone else using equi-bone?

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                #8
                btw Chestnut Run- I have a mare by Tiznow! She didn't do so well on the track, so I bought her as an OTTB for eventing! She has a fabulous temperament- What's Tiz Brian like?

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                • #9
                  This is another neutraceutical designed to cheat people out of their money.

                  The timeline presented in the testamonial is typical for normal fracture healing, modeling and remodeling. In all my years as an orthopaedic researcher, there has never been any product that can directly affect bone remodeling. If it could, we would have cured osteoporosis and othe bone wasting diseases.

                  Whet TLC says in their website makes no sense from a bone biology/physiology perspective. Most of what they claim is controlled at the cellular level and can. It be influenced via diet. We tried decades ago at NASA to combat bone degeneration in space. Doesn't work.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by RAyers View Post
                    This is another neutraceutical designed to cheat people out of their money.

                    Sorry to say, I don't feel cheated. I feel very grateful that something worked to make my mare comfortable on her FIVE YEAR old and already healed breaks. No supplement will ever work on everything, just like no pharmaceutical works 100% of the time. I'm actually not a big believer in a lot of supplements, but this was enough difference for ME to feel that it was worth my money. As far as with the colt, his chip fracture was removed 2 years prior to putting him on Equi-bone. It had already healed with a bone spur. I don't claim to be any kind of researcher, just a horse owner sharing my experiences with a supplement that was asked about.

                    You may, of course, feel however you like.

                    Sheila
                    Last edited by Chestnut Run; Oct. 15, 2012, 02:07 PM. Reason: added about the colt

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by vtshale View Post
                      btw Chestnut Run- I have a mare by Tiznow! She didn't do so well on the track, so I bought her as an OTTB for eventing! She has a fabulous temperament- What's Tiz Brian like?
                      I adore him. You'll probably get more than you wanted to know in my response! His temperament is the absolute best! He is a stallion, and he knows it, but super, super easy going. If he were a gelding, he'd probably be the type willing to cart around anyone as long as he got cookies for it. He's very people orientated, lives right next to mares and geldings, and mares with foals. He's handled daily, mostly by me, but occasionally by my husband as well, without a chain shank. He bred 4 mares this past spring/summer. The first two were my mares, so we pasture bred him. Figured they would teach him manners about the whole breeding "thing". The second two mares had foals at their side, so they were hand bred live covers. He was a complete professional about the whole thing, and was completely polite and manageable with no chain shank for that as well.

                      I have a bunch of pictures that I need to update our website and my facebook page with, so if you want to see more (and better pictures) I can link you to my facebook page. The pictures on the website now are all from December. He's really grown and filled out since then. He wasn't 100% sound when we got him last December off of the track (because of poor management mostly), but is now. I ride him sporadically, and he is always just about perfect, even if it's been several weeks in between. I need better footing in the "ring" area to do more serious work, but hope to have everything in place to start up some serious dressage training with him this winter or early spring. We had hoped to get to it this past summer, but you know how things go. I jumped him a few times just over cross rails and barrels and he was super willing and VERY round, but because he did have a knee chip removed from racing, I'm not going to do much jumping with him. He's got dressage type movement, though, so between his way of going and his disposition, I'm hoping he'll do very well in it. My husband and I laugh sometimes, watching him. At the walk, trot, and canter, he just screams dressage--lots of suspension, big floaty gaits. Then he gallops and he's ALL race horse--huge, reaching stride, very little wasted motion. A few weeks ago, I had just turned him out and he was playing in the field (we rent part of a very large farm, so there are always people in and out) and one of the ladies stopped and watched him with me. She asked what his bloodlines were, that she would be interested in breeding her mare to him possibly. I told her, and she was all, "but those are all TB lines? Isn't he a Trakehner?" Made me laugh. Although, he is pretty chunkily built for a TB, I guess. We keep debating about presenting him to some of the warmblood registries, but it's a lot of money for probably not getting many breedings out of it. We got him mainly for breeding racehorses, and me getting a fancy dressage prospect in addition to it is just a bonus for me.

                      Good luck with your mare. The 3 or 4 Tiznow's that I've interacted with have all had outstanding dispositions and quite a bit of athletic ability too. I'd love to see pictures of her sometime.

                      Sheila

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                      • #12
                        I just ran a search for equi bone and got this and wanted to pipe in on tiz now offspring... I just retired and gelded zio tony for my next riding horse and he's absolutely fabulous!
                        Race training and retraining Thoroughbreds.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by doublete View Post
                          I just ran a search for equi bone and got this and wanted to pipe in on tiz now offspring... I just retired and gelded zio tony for my next riding horse and he's absolutely fabulous!
                          We should start a thread somewhere to brag on all our Tiznow babies and how wonderful they all are! Where would we put it if we did?

                          I happened to take pictures of our Tiznow stallion playing in the snow today. Here's the link. https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...6450921&type=1

                          Sheila

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                          • #14
                            I was just researching bone supplements here for my 4 year old with a fractured third trochanter and saw your Tiznow posts!

                            I just bought a Tiznow gelding from the track to keep my 4 year old company on layup!!! his name is... oh now i cant recall. tiz sometrhing that didnt make sense. he's 4 and big and b;ack and handsome and sound, just slow. he's a bit over at the knee but we're hoping that after some time off he might decide he likes to jump.

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                            • #15
                              oh and this tiz boy is SO cool and mellow

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                              • #16
                                Oh now, his sire is Tizbud, the full brother of Tiznow and his name is TizSaavy

                                http://www.equibase.com/profiles/Res...923&registry=T

                                Sheila he looks just like your boy. 2 short hind socks, white star on the face, dk brn/blk

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                                  #17
                                  Wow! LOVE all the Tiz- baby updates!! I'll have to post pictures of my mare: Joy Within (just five days older than your gelding, tisor)

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                                  • #18
                                    yes please do! we tried lunging our over cavaletti last weekend. he was totally blahsee about it.

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                                      #19
                                      tisor- check out the new thread that Chestnut Run started on Tiznow babies

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