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  • #21
    When I put a horse in cross ties, I plan on said horse staying in cross ties. In my humble experience, I have found few that will not stay there if not left to stand excessively or put there for things for which they should be hand held.

    I use heavy ties with a slight stretch attached high on the wall. I prefer ordinary snaps. I find more succumb to teeth than to breaking. I therefore try to keep them short enough to avoid mouths, but long enough that a startle, or head toss will not be too restricting.
    Some riders change their horse, they change their saddle, they change their teacher; they never change themselves.

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    • #22
      One nice thing about heavy, nylon line is that it has a natural "give" to it but won't react like "bungee" line will. Because of that give you don't have to use a "donut" or other "shock absorber."

      BUT, if it breaks, then Newton's Laws come into play. Back in my youth I watched a heavy, nylon line that was improperly rigged by a member of the Deck Division on a destroyer. It parted and inflicted some very impressive bruises on the sailors who improperly rigged it. They were almost as impressive as the bruises left by the butt-chewing the Chief Boatswain laid on them!!!

      Since I'm a "tie to stay tied" guy I don't have any truck with anything designed to break. If something needs to be released I can do that with either the "slip knot" or the knife.

      If you're going to use these things use quality material that will take the "gaff" without premature failure. That rules out bailing twine in any configuration or any other material that will break with little force. That just teaches a horse that "force means freedom."

      G.
      Mangalarga Marchador: Uma Raça, Uma Paixão

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      • #23
        Problems with the Equi-Ping's original design

        Originally posted by deltawave View Post
        Anyone seen these? I bought some at Rolex to use when I tie horses to the trailer.

        www.equinedesigns.co.uk

        Equi-Ping

        Be very careful with this product's first version. A friend bought 2 for me at Rolex 2012. I'm a big fan of diminishing risks if I can and, although my horse ties well and does not pull, any added safety measure decreases the odds of an accident. The first time I used it, my horse was loose, not once, but TWICE The first time I thought I might have not pushed in the barbs well enough, so I reset it and went off to the show office.

        Came back to find a woman whose trailer was parked next to mine holding my horse. She said that she saw what happened. I always leave a hay bag hanging, and my horse was eating out of it calmly. In the process of pulling sideways with his head/neck to get hay out of the bag, the Equi-Ping came undone with very minimal sideways traction on my horse's part. He wasn't pulling back with his body: he just swung his head/neck sideways to pull out hay. WOW! I thanked the woman profusely, removed the Equi-Ping and tied my horse the old fashioned way, with a quick release knot attached to a small loop of cotton line (package labeling says breaking strength is 50-60 lbs). No further problems that day.

        I contacted the manufacturer via email and they were less than cooperative or terribly pleased with my emails where I stated that their original design was faulty and that they should be recalled or retrofitted with the safety sleeve. Their new design shows that they must have gotten reports of the original model coming undone as I have described above and that is what led to the new design.

        DO NOT buy the older model that doesn't have the safety sleeve. Some American suppliers are still selling the older model - when in doubt, call and ask what model they are selling.

        Save yourself the heart-in-your-throat feeling I experienced that day. Fortunately, I do a lot of ground work with my horses and they all ground tie so the woman said he was easy to catch as he had not strayed far, but horses are horses and even the best trained horse can spook. What if something had spooked my boy and he had started running among the horse trailers, with people unloading, or horses already tied while their riders were getting their entry packets... We all know how, being herd animals, if one spooks, quite a few are likely to get caught up in the fight or flight reaction...

        FF
        Last edited by Friskyflea; Jun. 12, 2012, 07:22 PM. Reason: typo

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        • #24
          i am using two blocker tie rings as cross-ties b/c my horse freaked out over the hose a few years ago. i had to retrain him to stand without panicking, and these helped so much. i love them.

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          • #25
            From my "old cowboy upbringing" I consider a loose horse to be a dangerous horse. I want to tie them up, go away for a minute, an hour, whatever, and find the horse right where I left it when I get back.

            A loose pony ran down our barn, jumped a manure cart, and ran right out through the door.... door was closed.

            Once they learn that they can tug, shake their head, or stand back and get loose, it is a hard habit to break.

            All that said, we have boarders, so we have blocker tie rings on one side of every cross tie. They get release, but are not loose.

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