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  • Bute Expiration Date?

    Is bute ok after the expiration date? It seems like one of those things that should last forever but would like to make sure. Thanks!

  • #2
    I'm an expiration date follower. However, I know a few doctors who take expired meds (within a year of exp) to third world countries...so they can't be that bad? I think it would also matter if they've been stored appropriately, ie not in extreme hot or cold.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by AliCat518 View Post
      I'm an expiration date follower. However, I know a few doctors who take expired meds (within a year of exp) to third world countries...so they can't be that bad? I think it would also matter if they've been stored appropriately, ie not in extreme hot or cold.
      Many Ministries of Health are cracking down on not letting expired meds into their countries. However, I hear consistently from many vets and docs that if the storage was correct, for up to a year past date the safety is no problem except for tetracycline and a few others. Retention of potency might be a different issue.

      Aspirin is one med that does go bad (and starts smelling like vinegar when it does). I would wonder about bute.
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      • #4
        I'm sure it depends on how expired it is? What's the date?

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          Originally posted by davistina67 View Post
          I'm sure it depends on how expired it is? What's the date?
          it doesnt expire for an other four months, but thats not long and there is a lot left (which is a good thing!) that I dont want to have to throw away.

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          • #6
            LOL, you have horses. Don't count your chickens before your eggs! And it's 15 bucks!

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            • #7
              It's so cheap. And so readily available. Why would you take the chance?

              It's probably not harmful, but expiration dates aren't arbitrary-they're there for a reason. You will more than likely not get the same potency and efficacy that you will get with in-date medications, and you may end up doing harm by giving them.
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              • #8
                This thread made me chuckle because in the course of my spring barn cleaning I came across a bottle with an expiration date of 9/1996 Not sure how that made it through previous cleanings but needless to say it got tossed!

                I would bet it just loses potency over time but its cheap and not worth any small risk there might be so I'd probably toss it to be on the safe side.

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                • #9
                  I have a giant bottle of bute that expired in 2011. During a recent injury, I asked my vet if I could still use it and he said yes for at least a year or so as long as it wasnt exposed to water and wasnt crumbly.

                  I think the OP was probably asking (or at least Im assuming) for those cases where you need bute right away for an injury or emergency and you dont really have the time to call the vet and meet them or go pick up a new bottle. Its good to know that you can still use it at least until you have the chance to get a new bottle.

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                  • #10
                    What formulation? I would imagine the tube/gel kind might go over faster than the powder or the pills.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by BeanCounterPony View Post
                      I have a giant bottle of bute that expired in 2011. During a recent injury, I asked my vet if I could still use it and he said yes for at least a year or so as long as it wasnt exposed to water and wasnt crumbly.

                      I think the OP was probably asking (or at least Im assuming) for those cases where you need bute right away for an injury or emergency and you dont really have the time to call the vet and meet them or go pick up a new bottle. Its good to know that you can still use it at least until you have the chance to get a new bottle.
                      I got the impression that the OP didn't want to throw out her half-full container that was going to expire in four months, that s/he wanted to use it until it was gone and not "waste" any. If s/he knows it is going to expire in four months, s/he has plenty of time to get a new container before then, before she needs to use it.

                      theJenners has a good point-it really does depend on what formulation you're using too. If you get a compounded version that is going to expire much faster than a standard version.
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                      • #12
                        My vet told me that the bute from the compounding pharmacies always have an early expiration date, but that it is good for another year.

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                        • #13
                          THIS IS WHAT I HAVE BEEN TOLD (REPEATEDLY) ALSO ~

                          THIS IS WHAT I HAVE BEEN TOLD ALSO ~

                          Originally posted by kcmel View Post
                          My vet told me that the bute from the compounding pharmacies always have an early expiration date, but that it is good for another year.
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                          • #14
                            I'll go up to two years on bute and most other drugs if they've been stored close to properly. I used to live with a physician who was board certified in internal medicine and ER. He is one of the most brilliant people I know, and he would use human drugs a year or two after the expiration date and said I was fine doing it with the horses. Don't think I've used drugs over a year or so (on me and the animals), but they've worked and no problems.
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                            • #15
                              Think of the "expiration" date as a "sell-by" date. After that date the vet can't sell it to you. But Bute and Banamine are generally still at full potency for at least a year after that date, and will certainly not do harm.

                              Note: If someone in your barn is seriously low on funds, let your vet know. Often they will have stock of expired meds on hand that they can't sell, but will happily "donate" to a BO for use by a horse in need. Just sayin'!

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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by RedmondDressage View Post
                                This thread made me chuckle because in the course of my spring barn cleaning I came across a bottle with an expiration date of 9/1996 Not sure how that made it through previous cleanings but needless to say it got tossed!

                                I would bet it just loses potency over time but its cheap and not worth any small risk there might be so I'd probably toss it to be on the safe side.
                                I've got you beat! This past winter I found an old medicine box while cleaning the barn. It obviously hadn't been opened for a long time so I figured everything was worth tossing. I was having a good laugh seeing how old some ointments were. I found one from 1998 and was really surprised...until I found the eye ointment from 1979!!!!!!
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                                • #17
                                  BTW, if anyone wants to send me their "expired" meds (up to just <2 years) and they've been stored properly, feel free
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                                  • #18
                                    The longer it's past the expiration date, the more likely you are to see deterioration of the drug. Mostly it is efficacy that you'd worry about, much less of a worry that your average NSAID is going to "go bad" and turn into something harmful.

                                    I'll use meds up to a year or so after the expiration date with no hesitation, but when I find a bottle that's expired it just reminds me to go and order more. Bute is dirt cheap--I'd rather have fresh stuff on hand if I really need it, but don't mind using expired stuff in a pinch.

                                    Injectibles I consider more fragile and would not be inclined to use them much past the expiration dats.
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                                    • #19
                                      How careful are you storing bute?

                                      To revisit this thread, who REALLY properly stores bute? My barn has a "meds cabinet" that is not temperature regulated. Here in the midwest it gets down to freezing in the winter, though buckets don't usually freeze over, and it's scorching hot this summer. I know we have gel and tablet form of bute, which says to store at room temperature. If a big bottle of tablets or a few tubes of Bute hang around for 6-12 months, you know it's going to experience 70 degree temperature swings. Is it still effective? Are there any vets who can weigh in? I know the vet who visits our barn carries Bute and other drug supplies in his trunk. He doesn't carry tons of these supplies, but they gotta get hot in his black car....even if only in there a day or week....!!
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                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by davistina67 View Post
                                        LOL, you have horses. Don't count your chickens before your eggs! And it's 15 bucks!
                                        Where are you getting Bute for $15?! I just paid my vet $45 for a canister of powder.

                                        Btw, I also asked my vet about the expiration date because I always have a bunch left past the date on the canister. She said one could always use a bit of a bigger dose to make up for any strength that may have been lost.
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