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  • Question about pads on front hooves

    Since the sole of the hoof sheds/sloughs off naturally on its own, how does that happen if the horse has pads on its feet? Just curious to know if pads inhibit that natural process?
    "I am still under the impression there is nothing alive quite so beautiful
    as a thoroughbred horse."

    -JOHN GALSWORTHY

  • #2
    Originally posted by SaratogaTB View Post
    Since the sole of the hoof sheds/sloughs off naturally on its own, how does that happen if the horse has pads on its feet?
    First, your statement is in error because not every horse sheds its sole of its own volition. Second, if the horse is wearing pads, then the sole is retained until the next trimming/shoeing cycle.
    Just curious to know if pads inhibit that natural process?
    Again, it is not necessarily a 'natural process' for every horse, so the answer to your question is [a qualified] no.

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      #3
      My OTTB has some "old" bruising that is just emerging on the sole. He is sound and its not bothering him. My vet says that we should just leave it and shed on its own, dont pare into the sole or hollow it out. Farrier wants to put pads to give him extra protection for the winter so we dont have another bruising incident (it was caused by trauma from grabbing).

      Is there any reason to think that the pads could inhibit the "old bruising" from naturally growing out?

      I am sorry for my inexperience here, I'm new at this. Basically, I dont want to "cover up old bruising" if that will somehow keep him from fully healing.
      "I am still under the impression there is nothing alive quite so beautiful
      as a thoroughbred horse."

      -JOHN GALSWORTHY

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      • #4
        What kind of pads does the farrier want to use? Pour-in, leather, ??

        Is the horse shod right now?
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        • Original Poster

          #5
          Yes, he is shod now. The pads will be leather with some silicone inside.
          "I am still under the impression there is nothing alive quite so beautiful
          as a thoroughbred horse."

          -JOHN GALSWORTHY

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          • #6
            You can either cut a bruise out of a hoof or let it grow out then pare the entire foot down along with the bruise. It depends on how deep it is and what your farrier wants to do. Pads will not effect this, and pads will keep him comfortable until the current bruise grows out plus prevent a new bruise.
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            • #7
              It is not "natural" for dead layers of sole to always be constantly shedding in all horses. Wether it does that or not is environmental.
              Some horses"naturally" build up thick layers of tightly held in dead sole.("retained", or "False" sole) in response to their environment, like here in Colorado in the summer. .
              So, pads protect the soles from further bruiosing if the environment is too harsh for tat horses soles.And the prevent the dead sole from being abraded away. Which won't bother the horse in the least. When the shoes are removed for the next reset any dead sole that has built up underneath can be easily removed by the farrier.
              Patty Stiller CNBBT,CNBF,CLS, CE
              Natural Balance Certified Lameness Specialist ,instructor.
              www.hoofcareonline.com

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              • #8
                You already got some great answers but I'll chime in since one of my horses got a horrible bruise this past summer.

                I used Venice Turpentine, Then Magic Cushion (lord can that stuff be messy) until the farrier came out. Horse wasn't sore.

                We put pads on the horse, leather with silicone. I usually pad for the hunting season, we just started early on him because of the bruising.

                Horse was fine. Bruise eventually pared out, no problems with thrush or anything. They'll stay in pads until the season is over. (fronts only)
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                Of giving your heart to a dog to tear.
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                • #9
                  We have a TB gelding with what I consider Wuss feet. Early last summer he had chronic brusing, small abcesses, would buck under saddle.

                  I thought about it for a minute, and consulted with our farrier/ vet, and the horse now lives in a silicone pour in. He is happy, no more bruises anmd best of all no bucks!

                  I think can pads can be a very therapeutic thing.

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                  • Original Poster

                    #10
                    Well, last night we did it! Thanks for all your advice, which makes me all the more confident. First the farrier pared a bit more sole. Some old bruising went along with it. My OTTB gelding is finally sound after SIX weeks of bruising on sole.

                    while he was lame, the farrier decided to walk around the paddock and working rings. He then said to me "you need to shoe for the environment your horse is in". In his opinion, the entire bruising thing would happen again without pads. So, last night he added them. He shot silicone in the back with a tube and rubbed his hand over the pad to make sure it was well distributed. Then he used some duct tape around the back. He said to let it set overnight (meaning dont ask him to do anything for one night) so the silicone could set well. I will go ride tonight and see how he's doing.

                    He also said that now is a good time to do this as the ground is generally frozen (Wash DC area). he did say that come spring we need to be careful about thrush and when the ground gets soft we may remove them.

                    If he does really well in these pads, is there a way to keep them year round? He did say something about changing them to "rim" pads which would get his soles further from the ground in the summer but still keep open to prevent thrush.
                    "I am still under the impression there is nothing alive quite so beautiful
                    as a thoroughbred horse."

                    -JOHN GALSWORTHY

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                    • Original Poster

                      #11
                      P.s. Mrs Bradbury: can you explain the "bucking" thing? I had thought that meant ill fitted saddle, back pain, or teeth issue. Does a bruised sole cause a horse to buck?

                      I ask because I have been bringing him back up from his lay-up and when I asked him to canter for the first time last week (before the pads) he gave me a few bucks before evening out. I thought it was just him not feeling like working, but now I am wondering about whether the old bruises could be causing it?
                      "I am still under the impression there is nothing alive quite so beautiful
                      as a thoroughbred horse."

                      -JOHN GALSWORTHY

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                      • #12
                        My one horse lives in rim pads. They do wonders for him!!! For the winter he wears the bubble snow pads.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by SaratogaTB View Post
                          Well, last night we did it! Thanks for all your advice, which makes me all the more confident. First the farrier pared a bit more sole. Some old bruising went along with it. My OTTB gelding is finally sound after SIX weeks of bruising on sole.

                          while he was lame, the farrier decided to walk around the paddock and working rings. He then said to me "you need to shoe for the environment your horse is in". In his opinion, the entire bruising thing would happen again without pads. So, last night he added them. He shot silicone in the back with a tube and rubbed his hand over the pad to make sure it was well distributed. Then he used some duct tape around the back. He said to let it set overnight (meaning dont ask him to do anything for one night) so the silicone could set well. I will go ride tonight and see how he's doing.

                          He also said that now is a good time to do this as the ground is generally frozen (Wash DC area). he did say that come spring we need to be careful about thrush and when the ground gets soft we may remove them.

                          If he does really well in these pads, is there a way to keep them year round? He did say something about changing them to "rim" pads which would get his soles further from the ground in the summer but still keep open to prevent thrush.
                          I use rim pads in the winter to prevent snowballs on shod horses. I wonder if this is the same type of pad? http://www.centaurforge.com/Mustad-B...uctinfo/07501/ I did have a thrush issue with pour-in pads during a wet/muddy nasty spring, so I am with your farrier there. What happened is the pad started to pull away a bit at the rear of the hoof and then debris and poo got in there, but I had no way to clean it out...this was on a 4 week shoe cycle for a horse with a foot issue we were working on, so it wasn't like I let them go 10 weeks or something...

                          I suspect some of the pour-in success may have to do with the farrier, the moisture on the hoof, temp, an other factors as well...

                          Glad to hear it worked!
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by SaratogaTB View Post
                            P.s. Mrs Bradbury: can you explain the "bucking" thing? I had thought that meant ill fitted saddle, back pain, or teeth issue. Does a bruised sole cause a horse to buck?

                            I ask because I have been bringing him back up from his lay-up and when I asked him to canter for the first time last week (before the pads) he gave me a few bucks before evening out. I thought it was just him not feeling like working, but now I am wondering about whether the old bruises could be causing it?
                            Not Mrs B, but... a horse only has so many ways to tell us he's uncomfortable. I think it's unrealistic to assume that horses have a vocabulary that says "this bit hurts, so I'll give this reaction." My feeling about bucking from pain, anywhere, is that it's an "Ow!!!" response. i.e. trucking along relatively normally, hit a rock with that bruised foot and "Ow!!!" or turn a corner and that bone spur catches-- "Ow!!!"

                            If you see what I mean.

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