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  • Hot shoe vs. Cold shoe?

    Hello!
    I'm relatively new to horse ownership in the U.S. as I moved here from Europe and just bought a horse I am planning to event. The farrier came out for the new horse's first shoeing recently and "surprise, surprise", that was... cold shoeing. I actually had to google it when I got home as I'd never even heard of it - where I'm from everyone hot-shoe (apart from the 'McGiverish' occasional shoeing out on the trails...).
    What are your thoughts? Any preferences? Does your farrier hot shoe or cold shoe?

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    Hot! Farrier can do a lot more to steel with heat, so you have options with hot shoes or plain steel barstock for customizing creations if horse needs a specialty set of shoes.

    Not stuck with whatever shoes Farrier happens to have on the truck, if he only cold shoes. Cold shoeing really limits the offerings Farrier can offer.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by goodhors View Post
      Hot! Farrier can do a lot more to steel with heat, so you have options with hot shoes or plain steel barstock for customizing creations if horse needs a specialty set of shoes.

      Not stuck with whatever shoes Farrier happens to have on the truck, if he only cold shoes. Cold shoeing really limits the offerings Farrier can offer.
      Cold shoeing doesn't mean the farrier doesn't heat the shoe. At least for the farrier I used to use, he just cooled the shoe off before putting it on the horse (and if needed would reheat, but he usually got it right the first time)
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      • #4
        My farrier does both, depending on the needs of the horse.

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        • #5
          Where I come from, hot shoeing means the Farrier uses a forge for heating the metal shoes for the horses. Could be just a couple minutes or a long time of running the forge.

          Cold shoeing means the Farrier does not have or use heat to shape the shoes before putting them on the equine. Has nothing to do with how they fit shoe onto the hoof itself.

          Though in my experience most hot shoers do fit the shoes to the hoof hot, some don't. Fine either way. If they use a forge to shape shoes, they are hot shoers for me.


          Originally posted by Big_Grey_hunter View Post
          Cold shoeing doesn't mean the farrier doesn't heat the shoe. At least for the farrier I used to use, he just cooled the shoe off before putting it on the horse (and if needed would reheat, but he usually got it right the first time)

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          • #6
            Ah, yes. I remember being shocked the first time I watched my horse get shod cold. I was 18 and up until then didn't even know such a thing existed. We'd just gone to FL from up north and the impression I got was that it was a Florida thing. (No idea if that's true or not of course, but every farrier we had or saw while there only did cold shoeing.)

            Now after moving west, the new farrier does hot shoeing, which now having had the chance to see both, I much prefer. The shoe just seems so much more snug on the foot. Done cold, I felt like I was always waiting for the shoes to slip somehow. They just didn't "seem" as secure to me. Heat also allows for so many customizations & corrective options. I don't think we'll be switching back to cold anytime soon.

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            • #7
              Since my mare went back to steel shoes(from wide web aluminum-about 6+ years) hot shoeing. I agree that the shoes seem to stay tighter longer. My understanding is that by doing the hot shoeing, the hoof is melted down a teeny bit so it is level to the shoe.

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                Any real farrier will have a forge and be proficient in its use... But many opt not to use the forge on every horse in the field.

                While it's actually easier to shoe hot, it is possible to do most horses perfectly well cold with modern factory shoes and farrier anvils.

                Shoeing hot was a no-brainer back in the days when farriers worked in their own shops. But when we took our operations on the road, it got problematic. Not only is there the hazard of driving around with a hot forge in your rig (the hot doesn't stop just because you turn off the gas/blower), but we're working in environments we can't control. Hay, shavings, sawdust, liquid fuels in the work area. Kids, dogs, idiots running around. Untrained horses... Adding fire to the situation is sometimes a bad idea.

                Plus, no matter how careful we are, if the barn burns down after we leave, everyone is going to remember our big, spark and smoke blacksmith show, and never think about the kid who flicked a cigarette butt.

                Whenever practical, I like to do my forgework ahead of time in my shop.

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                • #9
                  i don't mind either if the farrier is competent, i let him decide. Currently my horse has crappy brittle feet and my farrier is hot shoeing him. he also gets clips.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Dave Millwater, RMF View Post
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                    Any real farrier will have a forge and be proficient in its use... But many opt not to use the forge on every horse in the field.

                    While it's actually easier to shoe hot, it is possible to do most horses perfectly well cold with modern factory shoes and farrier anvils.

                    Shoeing hot was a no-brainer back in the days when farriers worked in their own shops. But when we took our operations on the road, it got problematic. Not only is there the hazard of driving around with a hot forge in your rig (the hot doesn't stop just because you turn off the gas/blower), but we're working in environments we can't control. Hay, shavings, sawdust, liquid fuels in the work area. Kids, dogs, idiots running around. Untrained horses... Adding fire to the situation is sometimes a bad idea.

                    Plus, no matter how careful we are, if the barn burns down after we leave, everyone is going to remember our big, spark and smoke blacksmith show, and never think about the kid who flicked a cigarette butt.

                    Whenever practical, I like to do my forgework ahead of time in my shop.

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                    This about sums up my thoughts as well. A competent farrier really should be able to do both, but may opt to cold shoe in some (or even most) situations. As long as they do a good job it doesn't matter too much.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Dave Millwater, RMF View Post
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                      Any real farrier will have a forge and be proficient in its use... But many opt not to use the forge on every horse in the field.

                      While it's actually easier to shoe hot, it is possible to do most horses perfectly well cold with modern factory shoes and farrier anvils.

                      Shoeing hot was a no-brainer back in the days when farriers worked in their own shops. But when we took our operations on the road, it got problematic. Not only is there the hazard of driving around with a hot forge in your rig (the hot doesn't stop just because you turn off the gas/blower), but we're working in environments we can't control. Hay, shavings, sawdust, liquid fuels in the work area. Kids, dogs, idiots running around. Untrained horses... Adding fire to the situation is sometimes a bad idea.

                      Plus, no matter how careful we are, if the barn burns down after we leave, everyone is going to remember our big, spark and smoke blacksmith show, and never think about the kid who flicked a cigarette butt.

                      Whenever practical, I like to do my forgework ahead of time in my shop.

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                      THIS!

                      There were some barns this summer that refused to allow a forge. Especially the ones in certain cities with super tight burn bans...

                      My most-est awesom-est farrier (used him for 17 years now!!) used to rarely use his forge. Now he says he's getting old, and using the forge means less wear on him for shaping a shoe.

                      I only have one in shoes right now. But she's also in side clips and her shoes are tapped for studs.
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