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    Barn Manager/Owner recently switched grain over to an 11% Protein 10% Fat 17 crude fiber. He's in excellent weight & condition. The feed is geared towards high performance horses - we are not currently competing and when we are I'd say it'd be a push to call us "high performance". At any rate is a higher % protein or higher % fat that can turn typically quiet horse into spook & spin mode? I know the answer is probably a bit more complicated - any insight is appreciated. TIA

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    No protein and fat % will not make a horse crazy, but with an increase of those I would guess the overall calorie count is higher and that might give the horse extra energy. I would suggest cut the amount of grain possibly. 11% protein is a pretty low protein unless you are feeding a ton of it.
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      This should not bother your horse unless your horse is allergic or has some problem with the ingredients. This is a high fiber feed so that is good.

      However, you should read the feeding instructions and find out what the FEEDING RATE for this feed is. It should be about five or six pounds for a normal horse. If your horse is NOT getting that amount your horse will NOT be getting the appropriate amount of vitamins and minerals. For many horses to feed them the FEEDING RATE amount will make many of them FAT. So you should supplement your horse with vitamins and minerals if he is not getting the recommended amount.

      Most people don't bother to look at the feeding instructions on feed bags!

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        Horse is not fat - he's in good weight. My question is can a feed w/ high % of fat make them a bit "high" or is it the Protein %. Seems like the feeds geared towards higher performance (ie work) have higher % fat vs those like "Pleasure" which have like 4%. Or does it even matter

        The horse has excellent pasture and hay as well.

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          Originally posted by chizzle View Post
          Barn Manager/Owner recently switched grain over to an 11% Protein 10% Fat 17 crude fiber. He's in excellent weight & condition. The feed is geared towards high performance horses - we are not currently competing and when we are I'd say it'd be a push to call us "high performance". At any rate is a higher % protein or higher % fat that can turn typically quiet horse into spook & spin mode? I know the answer is probably a bit more complicated - any insight is appreciated. TIA
          Yes the answer is a bit more complicated. What is in this ration ? How much are you feeding? And what else is your horse being fed (hay, pulp, etc) and how much?

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            Originally posted by chizzle View Post
            Horse is not fat - he's in good weight. My question is can a feed w/ high % of fat make them a bit "high" or is it the Protein %.
            As whbar already said, no, these things do not, in and of themselves, make a horse hot.

            Extra calories do. The source of the protein or fat can (ie alfalfa is a common allergen which can manifest as "hot").

            Fat is the least likely of anything to make a horse hot unless it's involved in simply too many calories. It's a slower-burning, longer last source of energy, as opposed to quick acting, fast burning starches/sugars.

            Seems like the feeds geared towards higher performance (ie work) have higher % fat vs those like "Pleasure" which have like 4%. Or does it even matter
            It can matter, but as said, when you start increasing the protein and the fat, you're likely also increasing calories.

            The horse has excellent pasture and hay as well.
            That may be enough nutrition (don't know without testing it) but it can easily be too few calories. Or it can be enough. Or it can be almost enough.
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              Originally posted by chizzle View Post
              Horse is not fat - he's in good weight. My question is can a feed w/ high % of fat make them a bit "high" or is it the Protein %. Seems like the feeds geared towards higher performance (ie work) have higher % fat vs those like "Pleasure" which have like 4%. Or does it even matter

              The horse has excellent pasture and hay as well.
              Performance feeds often have more calories per pound than a feed marketed to pleasure horses. It has long since been disproven that protein makes a horse hot, it is just often in those high protein feeds there are more calories, or more starches or sugars in the case of older types of sweet feed. Also if you were to feed 1 flake of grass hay versus 1 flake of alfalfa hay (this is where many people think it is the protein of the alfalfa that makes the horses have more energy) 1 flake of alfalfa is going to have more calories than the grass hay which is really what is giving the horse more energy.

              http://www.horsegroomingsupplies.com...rt-269159.html

              On that list you can see many feeds, for example if you switched your horse from Horse Chow 100 (1000 calories per pound) and you fed 2 pounds a day that is 2000 calories, to Strategy (1,500 calories per pound) and kept the feed amount the same you are now looking at 3000 calories, that is a 50% increase from the original calorie amount, I would fully expect some changes in the horse.
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