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  • Modern Dentistry?

    I found these videos posted on Youtube. There is a wealth of information to be gained from these and other posted videos. All the different approaches to Equine Dentistry are represented. Have a look and see what you think. At the end of the second video at 6:19 there are imagess of this horse's tongue that should be closely examined by pausing the video.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmXgIe-bQYI

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRDkSNLBIio
    http://www.traditionalequinedentistry.com/

  • #2
    Here we go again.

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    • #3
      LOL, business must be slow!

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        #4
        Originally posted by davistina67 View Post
        LOL, business must be slow!
        Honestly, that's the best you can do,LOL? Did you look at the video? You think there is something funny about the condition of that horse by the end of his ordeal? I counted 5 different types of power tools used on that one horses teeth. I've never seen teeth filed so aggressively. Did you see how swollen and damaged that poor animals tongue is at 6:19 near the end of the second video? LOL?
        http://www.traditionalequinedentistry.com/

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Toothgrinder View Post
          Honestly, that's the best you can do,LOL? Did you look at the video? You think there is something funny about the condition of that horse by the end of his ordeal? I counted 5 different types of power tools used on that one horses teeth. I've never seen teeth filed so aggressively. Did you see how swollen and damaged that poor animals tongue is at 6:19 near the end of the second video? LOL?
          Pssst. Pssst. Hey, Toofgrinder! You may not want to mock the number of tools used in any dental procedure when you have stuff like this posted on your own website:

          "Using multiple hand tools (currently there are ten floats in my bucket) and a speculum allows a dentist to negotiate all the nooks and crannies of a horses mouth."


          Sorry about feeding the trolls. It's a hobby of mine.

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            #6
            Moderator? How about some help here. As to the purpose of the OP....
            Could one of COTH's resident tooth experts explain what has happened to the horse in the video? Initially the patients tongue looks very healthy but by the end of his ordeal it's extemely swollen and pock marked. I know vets, techs and lay dentists read this so please could we stay on topic...the frames toward the end of the second video tell the tale.....6:19.....is where you should stop the video and look closely. I can't get these images out of my mind, it's very sad...such a lovely horse. Why the silence on this subject?
            http://www.traditionalequinedentistry.com/

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            • #7
              I wouldn't call those videos a typical example of power floating.

              My vet power floats. She does not mess with the incisors, and I can assure you that my horses tongues are not swollen when she is done, because I am the one holding them out of the way!

              There are plenty of examples available of a power float done correctly.

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                #8
                Originally posted by newhorsemommy View Post
                I wouldn't call those videos a typical example of power floating.

                My vet power floats. She does not mess with the incisors, and I can assure you that my horses tongues are not swollen when she is done, because I am the one holding them out of the way!

                There are plenty of examples available of a power float done correctly.
                First off, thank you for an intelligent response. I hoped to start a dialog with my post, not suffer these fools and their constant name calling. There are some very brave folks on COTH when nobody knows their names.

                I think people should know that this approach, the overfloating in the videos, exists and horses are being harmed by it. Owners need to be educated as to what to look out for. Incisor reduction theories have been repeatedly repudiated yet some continue to file them. What's wrong with getting the word out?
                http://www.traditionalequinedentistry.com/

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                • #9
                  If folks are interested in discussing the videos posted and the points the OP makes about them, please do. Otherwise, avoid posting just to make comments about him/her trolling for a fight, which only serve to bump a thread that doesn't appear to be of interest to you.

                  We've removed some posts.
                  Thanks,
                  Mod 1

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                  • #10
                    My friend had a horse deliverd from California (to BC) and when she had his teeth checked the vet found his teeth very short. They surmised he had either a) had his teeth over-floated, or b) worn them down on sand. ?????

                    My gelding with a parrot mouth had his incisors filed all the time, and initially basically sawn down with a mini saw. But his mouth improved and he could graze.
                    Proud member of People Who Hate to Kill Wildlife clique

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Foxtrot's View Post
                      My friend had a horse deliverd from California (to BC) and when she had his teeth checked the vet found his teeth very short. They surmised he had either a) had his teeth over-floated, or b) worn them down on sand. ?????

                      My gelding with a parrot mouth had his incisors filed all the time, and initially basically sawn down with a mini saw. But his mouth improved and he could graze.
                      Ya, just goes to show they need to be in the right hands. No one disagrees with that, well, who knows, I think I know someone here that would! Power tools, a spec, and sedation are wonderful things in qualified hands. It's too bad traditional dentists try to scare people to make them think only a bucket of files should be used. A lot of horses suffer because of it. I just hate seeing people get ripped off by these foolish people and their scare tactics.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Foxtrot's View Post
                        My friend had a horse deliverd from California (to BC) and when she had his teeth checked the vet found his teeth very short. They surmised he had either a) had his teeth over-floated, or b) worn them down on sand.
                        Unless this horse is a geriatric, I would guess in this day and age it was scenario A. Overfloated mouths are common. Here is another video that highlights the symptoms.

                        http://www.youtube.com/user/Efordelp...19/NZA6F7W-D8I
                        http://www.traditionalequinedentistry.com/

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                        • #13
                          Too boring even for popcorn.

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                          • #14
                            A scapel in the hands of a good surgeon is a beautiful thing, in the hands of a poor surgeon, a butcher knife.

                            There are no absolutes in life. All power floats are not bad, all hand floats are not good and vice versa. They're only as good as the hands holding them.

                            Why the need to rehash this over and over OP? Extra time on your hands?

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by mjmvet View Post
                              Too boring even for popcorn.
                              Great attitude! A horse that can't eat hay three days after a float is boring. Is that just business as usual?
                              http://www.traditionalequinedentistry.com/

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                                #16
                                Originally posted by LauraKY View Post
                                Why the need to rehash this over and over OP? Extra time on your hands?

                                It interests me, don't read or post if you're not interested. BTW floated 7 today and 8 yesterday. Booked for the foreseeable future.... extra time? Who has posted here over 3,000 times? Can't argue any point so attack, attack, attack.
                                http://www.traditionalequinedentistry.com/

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                                • #17
                                  LauraKY. Agreed. But you may find this interesting. Attached is a link to a guy hand floating. Notice the lack of examination, not even looking in the horse's mouth before the work is started. Not even using a light. The lack of a complete job. Glad it's not my horse that is blindly getting a file shoved in his mouth, scared, and man handled. But, to each their own!

                                  http://www.youtube.com/user/briguystu

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                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by Toothgrinder View Post
                                    Great attitude! A horse that can't eat hay three days after a float is boring. Is that just business as usual?
                                    I've seen plenty of hack job lay dentists that only use files and the horses can't eat for days. Nothing like just knocking those old teeth loose!

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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by Toothgrinder View Post
                                      I found these videos posted on Youtube. There is a wealth of information to be gained from these and other posted videos. All the different approaches to Equine Dentistry are represented. Have a look and see what you think. At the end of the second video at 6:19 there are imagess of this horse's tongue that should be closely examined by pausing the video.

                                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmXgIe-bQYI

                                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRDkSNLBIio
                                      Other then the incisors, a bit to agressive for me, I say great job!

                                      I'm not sure about any one else, but when I go to the dentist, I myself experience a little discomfort..

                                      Whatever you might be seeing at 6:19, it's gone in the before and after photos. I'm sure some time has lapsed but probably not to much.

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                                        #20
                                        Is this the model for excellent equine dentistry?


                                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1Fnd...el_video_title
                                        http://www.traditionalequinedentistry.com/

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