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  • rice bran vs flax for shine

    im switching my mare to an EPSM diet after finally clueing in she might have it. so with rice bran pellets on the way i was wondering would they make a horse shine as much/more as a hrose eating ground flax?
    i board my gelding out right now and i bring him ground flax every few days to put in feeds. but it is a bit of a pain to have to bring it so often and all that. would the same ammount of rice bran as flax make him shine just as good?

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    I feed both...1 cup of rice bran and 1 cup of ground flax a day.

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      i'd like to elimate the flax if possible, but really like what it does to my geldings coat. thats why im wondering if rice bran can/will do the same?

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      • #4
        Rice bran has a good amount of fat in it, so I imagine it would. But, I don't speak from experience. I only use the whole flax and really like the results.

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        • #5
          I've done both and didn't get nearly the results in my horses' coats that I do with the flax.

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          • #6
            I used Equi-jewel Rice Bran and ground flax seed and have heard good things about both, and both are expensive. It can't sit around for long either or it gets rancid especially when it's warm. It sounds like your horse is well treated.

            Since he is so loved have you ever tried Thorvin Sea Kelp? It's not the same use but has a lot of good minerals and nutrition. I liked using it in the winter when good green foods aren't available.

            My horses had a great shiny coat on their diet. It's hard to make a grey shiny. But in the sunlight when you washed away the dirt you could see their coats glisten.



            Originally posted by FraggleRock View Post
            im switching my mare to an EPSM diet after finally clueing in she might have it. so with rice bran pellets on the way i was wondering would they make a horse shine as much/more as a hrose eating ground flax?
            i board my gelding out right now and i bring him ground flax every few days to put in feeds. but it is a bit of a pain to have to bring it so often and all that. would the same ammount of rice bran as flax make him shine just as good?

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            • #7
              My horse gets 1 1/2 cups of flax/day and 2 cups of rice bran.

              Flax seed has omega 3s and is good for coat, hoof and even joints.


              Originally posted by qhwpmare View Post
              I feed both...1 cup of rice bran and 1 cup of ground flax a day.
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                Originally posted by Tee View Post
                I've done both and didn't get nearly the results in my horses' coats that I do with the flax.
                Ditto. Had been feeding rice bran for a long time. Horse's coat didn't really shine until I added flax.

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                  I have been feeding Nutrena Empower, which has both. Yesteday, I got curious about calcium-phosphorus ratios, and learned that rice barn is VERY high in phosphorus, and is bad for the balance.

                  The Empower is about 1:2, calcium to phosphorus, which is not ideal, but from what I understand, unfortified rice bran can put the ratio way farther out of whack.

                  Any experts here to chime in on the phosphorus content of rice bran?
                  Last edited by ToTheNines; Feb. 21, 2011, 03:46 PM.
                  Rest in peace Claudius, we will miss you.

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                  • #10
                    If you buy stabilized rice bran that is not a problem.
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                    • #11
                      I switched from 1 cup whole flax to 1 cup rice bran pellets and they have nor other source of oil. They are very shiny.
                      "The mighty oak is a nut who stood its ground"

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                        its equi jewel rice bran, wouldnt buy the unstablized kind. at $51 for a 50 LB bag i sure hope they like it!
                        i guess i will keep the flax, maybe i can cut back a bit though. i found out i can get stabalized flax at the feed store, $35 for a 50 LB bag so its definately cheaper in the long run than buying it from the bulk barn like i do. but i wonder how long even the stablized flax would stay good for? i only feed a cup a day so i think 50 LBs would be too much. maybe i will look into smaller sized bags of stabilized flax for the gelding.

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                        • #13
                          I think Bogie means "fortified" not "stabilized" to get the calcium phosphorus ratio back in line.
                          Rest in peace Claudius, we will miss you.

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                            Originally posted by Bogie View Post
                            If you buy stabilized rice bran that is not a problem.
                            Stabilized means it won't go bad quickly, fortified means it has been fortified with calcium to properly balance it.

                            As an aside when talking about the Ca:P ratio the Ca number is always listed first other wise it looks inverted.

                            2:1 = good
                            1:2 = bad this ratio means the P is 2x the calcium.

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                            • #15
                              I use whole flax seeds. Not ground, not soaked, not boiled not messed with. They work just as well. And are infinitely cheaper. Flax is also higher in phosphorus BUT not like unfortified rice bran which is higher than wheat bran.

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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by Seal Harbor View Post
                                I use whole flax seeds. Not ground, not soaked, not boiled not messed with. They work just as well. And are infinitely cheaper.
                                Where I live, the rice bran pellets (balanced Ca:P) is much cheaper than than whole flax.
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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by Stacie View Post
                                  Where I live, the rice bran pellets (balanced Ca:P) is much cheaper than than whole flax.
                                  I pay $0.76 a pound for whole flax which is fed in ounces, 50 lb bag for $38. Most get between 2 - 6 ounces a day. Cost $0.08 - $0.24 per day.

                                  When I have fed rice bran pellets, stabilized and fortified it was a 40 lb bag for about $30 - $0.75 a pound but fed more per day, at least a half a pound up to two pounds. Cost per day - $0.34 - $1.50 per day.

                                  Cheaper to feed the whole flax.

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                                  • #18
                                    You are correct. My answer was incomplete. I feed Equi-Jewel rice bran pellets which are stabilized AND have calcium carbonate.

                                    My brain and my fingers were not coordinating properly.

                                    I also feed whole flax.

                                    Where I am, flax is less expensive than rice bran. I feed the rice bran in the winter to add a bit more fat to my boys diet and because it makes his soaked beet pulp a bit more interesting to him.

                                    Originally posted by Seal Harbor View Post
                                    Stabilized means it won't go bad quickly, fortified means it has been fortified with calcium to properly balance it.

                                    As an aside when talking about the Ca:P ratio the Ca number is always listed first other wise it looks inverted.

                                    2:1 = good
                                    1:2 = bad this ratio means the P is 2x the calcium.
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                                    • #19
                                      I feed my guy 4 cups of Southern States Rice Bran pellets daily (no flax seed)and his coat has remained shiny all winter no matter how much red clay he has tried to add to it. He loves the pellets as well...
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                                      • #20
                                        its equi jewel rice bran, wouldnt buy the unstablized kind. at $51 for a 50 LB bag i sure hope they like it!
                                        One of us is either real lucky ME- or very unlucky YOU.

                                        I feed Equi Jewel to one of my older hard keepers and just purchased a #50 bag this week for $27.50, that is the correct price as I had them look in the book for another rice bran quote.
                                        Located Md/Pa border

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