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Venice turpentine - is it cruel?

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  • Venice turpentine - is it cruel?

    One of the horses is barefoot for the winter. He is very lightly ridden and pretty much serves as a warming agent to the barn. In the summer when he shows, he is in 4 shoes. However usually after the last show I pull his shoes. He does really well barefoot until usually January when the ground gets frozen and lumpy. He's not lame or super tender...but on occasion takes a funny step.

    I started applying 1 coat of venice turpentine to his font feet once a week, that seem to to the trick for him and he is 100% when walking on the lumpy ground and working in the indoor arena.

    I have heard different things from different people. One farrier said 1 appliation per week (and light application, not to gob it on) wouldnt bother him at all. Another said to paint the feet for a week, then I wont have to do it again. I opted to do a light application once per week.

    Are there any residual effects of using it? I just put it on the edge of the soles, not near the bulb or frog.

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    I prefer Durasole.
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      I have durasole....maybe I should try that again. I was told it wasnt as effective to prevent bruising from hard lumpy ground though.

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      • #4
        If you make him drink it, it's cruel. If using a little bit topically makes him more comfortable, how can this be anything but beneficial? It may not be the best product out there, but it's certainly unlikely to do any harm used topically in small amounts.
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          I have used it to great effect and it is an excellent product. Perhaps in the age of all chemicals are going to kill us/them and all of the hoopla about "natural" it could cause one to question but it has been used for a long time with many horses being helped significantly with the use. It does not sting so I would not consider it cruel. Cruel to make the horse limp around on hard ground in bare feet, using Venice Turpentine to toughen them up, no, not in my book.

          I used it as needed, meaning when the hoof started to look like it was softening, or the horse started to get ouchy, it was used. No hard and fast rules, just common old 'horsesense'.
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          • #6
            I use venice turpentine and have never had a problem...I really like it for my barefoot horses.
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              Originally posted by Calamber View Post
              Perhaps in the age of all chemicals are going to kill us/them and all of the hoopla about "natural" it could cause one to question
              Venice Turpentine is pretty darned natural, seeing as it is the resin produced by Larch Trees.
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                Great! Horse doesnt seem to mind it...and hes much happier walking in the tundra when he has it applied thanks!

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                  I have a TB with worse-than-stereoptypical "TB feet." We managed his feet with wedge pads through the show season and he had full pads for probably 6 months last year. We pulled the pads off at the end of the season and the soles of his feet felt about the same as the palm of your hand. On the advice of my vet I mixed venice turpentine with tincture of iodine and painted that on his feet 2x a day until the products I ordered showed up (Durasole and Keratex)...so close to 2 weeks. He never showed any particular sensitivity to the VT, and his feet hardened up to "normal horse" feet within that time. Of course that was also by virtue of the fact that he didn't have the pads on anymore and he was kept in a stall 12 hours a day, so his feet were able to dry up. But the VT didn't cause any additional sensitivity that I was able to detect.

                  I guess I'm not quite sure what your question is. Are you wondering if it hurts the horse in some way? I've never seen it "burn" a horse or cause pain. But then I haven't used it often enough to be intimately aware of how a multitude of horses would react to it. What I can say is that 2x a day application over the course of almost two weeks in conjunction with keeping my guy in his stall 12 hours a day (it's been a WET WET WET winter here in Washington, so there is no "dry" outside of the stall) helped my exceedingly sensitive TB a LOT.
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                  • #10
                    My big 17.3hh Irish Sporthorse wasn't holding shoes well (ontop of farrier issues). So I was forced to pull his shoes and he was LAME. I did the turpentine for a week or two and he was good as gold.

                    I've since changed feed and farriers and he is barefoot behind year round! I LOVE it!

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                    • #11
                      Here's the info on Durasole from their website:

                      Durasole is a povidone-iodine based sole dressing formulated to harden the equine exfoliating sole and frog. It is extremely effective in enhancing the protective capabilities of those structures and does not affect the proximal sensitive sole or frog. Durasole works by swelling and thickening the cell membranes of the exfoliating sole, not by coating the sole with impermeable oils. Durasole does not contain copper napthenate or any essential oils. Because of its unique formulation, Durasole can be used for extended periods of time on chronically thin-soled horses without fear of drying out the foot as it does not compromise the moisture balance of the foot when used as directed. Durasole creates a tough, natural, pad between your horse's sensitive sole and the world's often hostile environment.

                      It's also great for thrush.
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                      • #12
                        LauraKY, I see from your signature line that you are an Idol fan...... that was a Great line!

                        Oh, and to the point of the thread, I have used it and never had any trouble.... except that it is so sticky and .... sticky.

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                          Yup, I do love Idol. But I only watch the first couple of shows during tryouts. But, then I have a sick sense of humor. That line just really cracked me up. I think it's my motto for the year.

                          Yeah, Venice turpentine is sticky and sticky. And very hard to apply when it's cold out.
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                            Originally posted by SquishTheBunny View Post
                            Great! Horse doesnt seem to mind it...and hes much happier walking in the tundra when he has it applied thanks!
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