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  • question on tailbags and braiding

    i would like to start bagging my horses tail.i know most ppl braid horses tail before bagging,buti don't like the wavy,kinky things it does to horses tails.i am trying to achieve a straight tail as best as possible .my question is what would happen if i bagged my horses tail WITHOUT braiding, pre bagging.
    if not a good idea...do you have ideas for someone who doesn't want the permed tail effect.

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    sorry another question i meant to ask in my post is...how do you size your horse for a neck sleazy(the ones that cover face and neck only)
    i have a 16h DWB/appy x,if that helps any.for size suggestions.
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    • #3
      I don't think you'd be able to bag the tail without braiding it. The bags I used to use tie thru the top of the braid.

      What I use are the lycra tail wraps. While they do wave a little when the tail comes down, a little bit of water or conditioner typically brushes it right out.

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      • #4
        I don't think the bag would stay in. What most people do is when they take the tail out of the bag is wash it and condition it. It will be straight as soon as it dries.

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        • #5
          You have to braid to keep the bag in. A little showsheen and brushing will help it straighten out if you need it down quick for a lesson or something. At a show I usually wash and condition my horses tail and then either leave it out of the bag or braid it loosely overnight and it always looks just fine.

          Sleazy's are all different depending on the brand, look at the manufacturer's sizing info.

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          • #6
            You guys take your horse's tails down for lessons? Mine are up except when I'm A) showing as in in the ring right that minute or B) washing it in my hands right that minute-other than that, they stay in braids wrapped up or in a knot.

            That's crazy Arabian people for you though lol
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            Sam: A job? Does it pay?
            Michael: Nah, it's more of a "we'll kill you if you don't do it" type of thing.
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              okay thanx peeps..would a looser braid work..sorry im new to the tail wrap thing.
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              • #8
                They really need to be braided pretty tight. I actually French braid them. I actually put one in on Saturday and just did a really quick/loose braid, and it was out by Sunday evening. French braided and re-bagged this morning, and so far, so good

                They seem to be slightly less wavy with the three piece tail bags.
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                • #9
                  I leave it in all of the time, even for lessons. For clinics or shows it comes out. It has to be braided tight or it will fall out. I start right under the tailbone, braid tightly and then bag it, with the knot on the bag right under the end of the tailbone. That way the risk of cutting off circulation isn't there. My last horse had a partially paralyzed tail from an improperly applied too tight tail wrap from before I owned her, so I am very careful about my horse's tailbone!

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                  • #10
                    Braiding your horses tail will make using any tailbag easier. If trying to achieve a straight tail, washing and conditioning it before will work.

                    If the purpose to grow the tail long and keep healthy. Braiding it is the way to go as it prevents breakage. I usually take tail out once a week and finger comb, recondition, braid, put sock on tail, then tail bag. I do not completely brush tail unless showing, or giving it a good wash/condition.

                    As for a slinky, check the sizes as all are different. If you hore is 16HH, a large would probably work

                    Hope this helps

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                    • #11
                      I french braided just the top section of the tail and placed all the tail in the tail bag using the upper braided part to secure the tail bag. All the tail stayed in the bag, BUT!! the bottom section of tail ended up being a rats nest of knots, even with copious amounts of Show Sheen being used prior to bagging.

                      Braid the tail the entire way!!

                      If you just braid the upper section tightly and the lower section loosely, you may find that the kinks aren't as bad.

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                      • #12
                        I put tails up wet, the braids seem to hold better. If you want it straight, blow dry it when you take it down for a show. I've been told that if they are braided wet or get wet the tail will rot - but I've never had it happen in my experience, even in humid VA Bch, and the person who told me this wasn't that good at growing tails. I've had tails that drug the ground by 3 or 4 feet, so they didn't come down much. Depending on the weather, I take them down every 30-90 days. I'm not inclined to spend 2 hours with wet hands in the middle of January.

                        This is what I usually do-
                        Wash & condition tail, and pick it out (NO COMBS OR BRUSHES)
                        Get a 3-legged (be creative) pair of old pantyhose and braid it tightly into the tail, it helps keep it from getting tangled. Your hose should be at least as long as your tail. You can also cut the toes off and put the tail in the panty hose. It can be a pain to start, but has worked well for me.
                        Loop the braid through the top of it a couple times, depending on how long it is.
                        Wrap the bundled braid with electrical tape or vet wrap. Cover that with a tube sock to keep it clean. cut the top of the sock in 2 pieces, and tie it through the top of the braid. Another option is to just cover the braid with vet wrap.

                        In the summer, I've braided in loose muslim strips to hang down, or sewn them to the sock, so there is something to swish flies with. I've also seen bailing twine used.

                        When I was growing a tail that had been cut off for a switch, I would use MTG on the tail bone and leave the braid in. Tails seem to do better with a certain amount of neglect.
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