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    3 yo losing teeth, help with teething?

    So I discovered that my 3 yo mare is losing her teeth. I have already panicked and called the vet to ask if it's normal. FYI - It is. The vet said to just let them come out as they please.
    But, I'm now looking for more information. Is it only the fronts? Can I do anything to help her teething process???
    She has ripped down the plastic rainspouting in the paddock, and the barn owner is of course not pleased. This is new, she is not normally destructive. Does anyone get their horse "chew" toys?
    Thanks!!
    http://www.minuspride.blogspot.com

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    Originally posted by minuspride View Post
    So I discovered that my 3 yo mare is losing her teeth. I have already panicked and called the vet to ask if it's normal. FYI - It is. The vet said to just let them come out as they please.
    But, I'm now looking for more information. Is it only the fronts? Can I do anything to help her teething process???
    She has ripped down the plastic rainspouting in the paddock, and the barn owner is of course not pleased. This is new, she is not normally destructive. Does anyone get their horse "chew" toys?
    Thanks!!
    dont panic its normal , a horse changes his teeth at 2 3 and 4 starts of with the middle set top and bottom then the next set and then the last set at the front depending when the horse was born depends when he loses his teeth man made neddies can lose them right up until later in the year natural born lose them between now and the spring
    by man made i mean horses at stud
    natural is the normal way horses have foals from spring to spring

    please understand cannies are not wolf teeth and dont normally cause a problem so dont remove them unlike some people here its not a done regular thing as in usa
    its unnessacary unless they are a problem with the bit or medical reasons



    then at 4/5 years old they get there cannines or tusks to us here at 6 there teeth are flat and meet together and they have a black dot in the middle of there now new front teeth this dot goes smaller as they get older and just liek a tree it has rings around it at 7 and 12 they get whats know as a hook on the top last set of teeth at t10/11 they start the gulvins groove on that same upper set of teeth this groove as they get older get more like a cigarette stain and also travels towards the bottom of the tooth if you ever see a horse with a huge dirty galvins groove and its near the bottom then the horse is over 25yrs


    look here http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&sou...YZ6rOA&cad=rja

    wolf tooth pic just infront of the upper molars
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Wo...h_in_horse.jpg

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      #3
      ......please understand cannies are not wolf teeth and dont normally cause a problem so dont remove them unlike some people here its not a done regular thing as in usa
      its unnessacary unless they are a problem with the bit or medical reasons


      Goeslikestink... do you mean that people in the UK remove canines or that people in the UK do? I have never heard of it in the US. It takes general surgery to remove them and it is normally several thousand dollars. I have heard of one guy that calls himself an "equine dentist" at a race track that cuts them off to the gum. Most people now know he is crazy. Esp after those horses were in so much pain from this guy cutting the tooth off, exposing the nerve, and killing the tooth. What an idiot....

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        #4
        Originally posted by davistina67 View Post
        ......please understand cannies are not wolf teeth and dont normally cause a problem so dont remove them unlike some people here its not a done regular thing as in usa
        its unnessacary unless they are a problem with the bit or medical reasons


        Goeslikestink... do you mean that people in the UK remove canines or that people in the UK do? I have never heard of it in the US. It takes general surgery to remove them and it is normally several thousand dollars. I have heard of one guy that calls himself an "equine dentist" at a race track that cuts them off to the gum. Most people now know he is crazy. Esp after those horses were in so much pain from this guy cutting the tooth off, exposing the nerve, and killing the tooth. What an idiot....
        no not here in uk , but there been several post on coth that peeps remove the cannies thinking they wolf teeth when they are not

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          #5
          Thanks for the advice, but I plan on letting them fall out, and getting the vet out in a month or two to have a serious look and make sure it's all going well.

          I was looking more for advice on whether anyone knew of any "chew" toys that could be bought or made? Or if I can do anything else to make her comfortable.

          Also, I'm curious if the molars come out too, or only the fronts.

          Thanks again!
          http://www.minuspride.blogspot.com

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            #6
            My guy - also 3 - is going through the same thing. The molars will shed too. The dentist was out maybe 2 months ago and removed 4 caps then. Last week I noticed another front tooth was about to shed. Unless he shows discomfort, or starts to chew or act funny while eating, I'm going to just let them come out on their own and schedule another visit with the dentist in the spring.

            As far as chew toys, I'm not sure? Maybe a jolly ball? :-)
            Karen
            " Go to the big shows. Watch the great riders and dare to think ... That could be me."

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              #7
              I have never had a horse chew on things during this process, at least that I have noticed. Our dentist likes to check them in the spring and fall of their 3 yo year and will often help pull the caps off because they can cause some issues and discomfort. Maybe get a second opinion and have someone out to help with removing them?

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                #8
                Contact a equine dentis if you are really curious and concerned. costs about 40 for a visit. I have my guys teeth looked at 1 x a year by the dentist. he says i don't but, for so little money it is a nice conficdence knowing all is well. Some areas you can't find a equine dentist but here is southeast pa, we have a good one. When my 3 year filly had her spring check is showed me one and said no worries. I would ask them about the chew toys. Mine live out and have plenty, to chew on.
                Memebr of Charlie Horse Riding Club.

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                  #9
                  I'd hazard to guess that ripping the downspout off is not related to "teething" but more likely due to boredom. I've had many young horses and do not find that they have a need to chew through the teething process like dogs do. If that were the case, I'd have no barn left as they shed teeth until they are 5! I think I would look at solving the boredom problem for your horse.

                  As for the teeth -- not just the fronts, but all around the mouth will eventually shed and grow in adult teeth. This has already been happening for your horse at 3 years old and will continue until 5 or so. If you look around online, you'll probably be able to find a chart that shows which teeth come in when -- like I have a 4.5 year old that just recently got his outside incisors (so front corners) coming in.

                  I have my young horses checked every six months. Wolf teeth (the tiny, useless teeth that can interfere with bitting) are pulled prior to starting under saddle. Canines usually come in later -- my 4.5 year old is just having his come in, while I have another horse that didn't get his in until he was 6+ (unusually late). Those are not pulled, but sometimes get trimmed if they get long and catch the bit going in and out.

                  The dentist/vet that I use has good info on his website, including some on age-related needs: http://www.perfequinedentistry.com/

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                    #10
                    My horses have old vulcanized rubber feed tubs to chew on and play tog of war with, as well as Jolly balls. One gelding paddock also has a tire (no rims or metal of course!). They do like that tire...

                    We have also given our own horses tree branches to play with, but those do come with a risk of spinters or getting poked in the mouth.

                    I have yet to have any of my girls play with toys though. They seem happier destroying their shelters.
                    Freeing worms from cans everywhere!

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                      Originally posted by horsepoor View Post
                      I'd hazard to guess that ripping the downspout off is not related to "teething" but more likely due to boredom. I've had many young horses and do not find that they have a need to chew through the teething process like dogs do. If that were the case, I'd have no barn left as they shed teeth until they are 5! I think I would look at solving the boredom problem for your horse.

                      As for the teeth -- not just the fronts, but all around the mouth will eventually shed and grow in adult teeth. This has already been happening for your horse at 3 years old and will continue until 5 or so. If you look around online, you'll probably be able to find a chart that shows which teeth come in when -- like I have a 4.5 year old that just recently got his outside incisors (so front corners) coming in.

                      I have my young horses checked every six months. Wolf teeth (the tiny, useless teeth that can interfere with bitting) are pulled prior to starting under saddle. Canines usually come in later -- my 4.5 year old is just having his come in, while I have another horse that didn't get his in until he was 6+ (unusually late). Those are not pulled, but sometimes get trimmed if they get long and catch the bit going in and out.

                      The dentist/vet that I use has good info on his website, including some on age-related needs: http://www.perfequinedentistry.com/
                      Great to see you use Dr Vetter! He is very well respected with anyone that does good dental work throughout the US.

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                        #12
                        My filly did go through a stage of chewing on stuff when her center incisors fell out. Mainly on the oak tree. It was short-lived, and locking her away from the tree and giving her some extra hay cured that issue

                        The from molars will shed around the same age as the center incisors. I found two from my gelding, one in the pasture and one in the water trough. They are so neat!

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by minuspride View Post
                          But, I'm now looking for more information. Is it only the fronts? Can I do anything to help her teething process???

                          Just have her checked about every 6 months in case a baby tooth fails to fall out and sits on top of the emerging adult tooth (called a "cap" when this happens....easy for the vet to pry off). She will gradually loose all baby teeth (including molars) and replace them with adult teeth over the next 3-4 years. AND she will likely grow some impressive "tooth bumps" on her lower jaw as the new teeth come in.....sometimes they love to have you rub on those while a few seem to think it is not something they enjoy....would guess they are a bit sensitive. Never seen a horse use a toy like dogs do (or kids)... they seem to shed the teeth whenever/wherever they are ready..have found them on the ground and in feed tubs and water tanks. I often will switch to using a bosal when they have teeth shedding, esp the more forward molars, as their mouth seems sensitive to a bit at that point (in fact, with the reined cowhorses it is customary to shift to a bosal/jacima (hackamore) at this point in training just to avoid dental discomfort).
                          Colored Cowhorse Ranch
                          www.coloredcowhorseranch.com
                          Northern NV

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by minuspride View Post
                            Thanks for the advice, but I plan on letting them fall out, and getting the vet out in a month or two to have a serious look and make sure it's all going well.

                            I was looking more for advice on whether anyone knew of any "chew" toys that could be bought or made? Or if I can do anything else to make her comfortable.

                            Also, I'm curious if the molars come out too, or only the fronts.

                            Thanks again!
                            yes they do come out, the molars that is as they are all baby teeth by 5yrs old they should have all there adult teeth obviously depending when they was born

                            and will add when they old and aged they again lose there teeth

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by flyingleadchange View Post
                              My guy - also 3 - is going through the same thing. The molars will shed too.
                              There are no deciduous molars.
                              There are deciduous incisors and premolars.
                              "It's like a Russian nesting doll of train wrecks."--CaitlinandTheBay

                              ...just settin' on the Group W bench.

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                                #16
                                Originally posted by Ghazzu View Post
                                There are no deciduous molars.
                                There are deciduous incisors and premolars.
                                Yes, horses have baby teeth except the last 3 teeth in the back on each side, top and bottom. Those last twelve teeth do not shed.

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