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My horse has stopped eating his "grain"

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    #21
    Thanks for asking, nope nothing yet.
    Vet I spoke with on Thursday, says to switch his feed and call him if he does'nt improve. I did schedule a "Physical" for him though-but not until end of the week.
    Picked up the textured version of his current feed, will find out tonight if he will eat it.

    Aside from the not eating-he seems to be 100%. He has started eating more of the crap hay than he was when he was eating 8# of pellets a day.

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    • #22
      Good luck, hope the change in feed works for you, and that the exam helps you get to the root cause.
      There are friends and faces that may be forgotten, but there are horses that never will be. - Andy Adams

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      • #23
        ulcers

        My old guy stops eating periodically especially if you give him more than 3-4 lbs of grain at a time. I'm not inclined to spend loads of money on him but I want him to be comfortable and a healthy weight. The best thing I've found for him is the TC senior. I didn't spring for the ulcerguard yet and I think I don't need it on this feed (so that's a savings). Seriously - try it for 2-3 weeks. I bet you'll be surprised at the difference it makes. An easy and affordable fix.

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          #24
          Munchkins Mom-Thank you for your support, I remember reading your thread and being so upset for you and your boy.

          Well, I gave him about 1 lbs of the new textured feed this afternoon-gobbled it right up.

          Got overzealous and gave him another 1/2 pound and put his most important supplement in it-Ate the grain around the supplement. Going to forget all about his supplements until his Smartcalm pellets come in.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Spooky Alter View Post
            Munchkins Mom-Thank you for your support, I remember reading your thread and being so upset for you and your boy.

            Well, I gave him about 1 lbs of the new textured feed this afternoon-gobbled it right up.

            Got overzealous and gave him another 1/2 pound and put his most important supplement in it-Ate the grain around the supplement. Going to forget all about his supplements until his Smartcalm pellets come in.
            Thanks. I have one gelding that is very fussy about supplements, he refused to eat any powdered forms, and some pellets. Luckily for me, the supplements that I need for joints for him come in a liquid form, and he loves them.
            There are friends and faces that may be forgotten, but there are horses that never will be. - Andy Adams

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            • #26
              70% of all thoroughbreds on the track suffer from ulcers. I'm not sure why the reluctance to at least try to treat with equine meds?

              If he is stalled that will also contribute to ulcers.

              I'd do 7 days of ulcer guard(7 tubes) and see if he improves. It also wouldn't hurt to put him on a daily supplement of u-gard or neigh lox.

              Changing his feed will only help temporarily, if it is ulcers he will go off of the new feed to.

              Also horses with ulcers act "hot" as the acid in their stomachs hitting an ulcer can cause them to be quite explosive. Could be you treat and find out your hot horse isn't any longer...

              Good luck

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              • #27
                I forgot to add:

                Check your Joint supplement to make sure there isn't any Devils Claw in it.

                U-gard is $11.25/month. They suggest a loading dose that's $22.50/month for the first month.

                Very affordable, well worth a shot! Mine will never be off of it!

                http://www.smartpakequine.com/Produc...6&cm_vc=Search

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                • Original Poster

                  #28
                  No reluctance to use "equine" meds at all, just following misguided instructions.

                  I think at this point, the smart thing is to have him scoped, to take ulcers out of the equation one way or another. If I am having him scoped in a week, it does'nt make a whole ton of sense to treat him for the condition we are trying to diagnose.

                  He is stalled in the evenings, he actually prefers his stall to being outside, even in temperate weather. The worst condition he has ever been in was pastured with his best buddy on great grass, great free choice hay, and 2x grain daily.

                  Joint supplement has no Devil's Claw

                  I can only hope some of this horse's issues would disappear with ulcer treatment, but he comes by his issues the old fashioned way.

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                  • Original Poster

                    #29
                    Update

                    Ulcers....
                    Gastro Gard and then maintenance.

                    I know there are 3000 threads on Ulcers, I shall go start researching....unless someone wants to help me out.

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                    • #30
                      A big sigh of relief from me! Not that I would wish ulcers on any horse, but it must ease your mind to know that it is something you can cure, and then with proper maintenance he should be better than ever.
                      There are friends and faces that may be forgotten, but there are horses that never will be. - Andy Adams

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                      • Original Poster

                        #31
                        Apparently, they are pretty bad ulcers, all through his gut (hind gut confirmed with fecal)-and I feel like a REALLY bad mom.

                        So what does everyone recommend for maintence? I don't like dumping chemicals into my horses, but will to keep them happy/healthy if nothing else will do it.

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                        • #32
                          After you're done gastroguard I would go with Smartgut and an oz of TractGard. It worked well for my TB, who is now only on SmartDigest and still doing well.
                          Ulcers are a pain in the butt to deal with, and you always have to be "watching" even after they're "cured".
                          See if you can convince your BO to give him more of the good hay that he eats...free choice hay is the best thing to prevent ulcers from cropping back up IMO.
                          Add alfalfa cubes for their high calcium content, which will buffer the stomach. Add smartgut and tractgard. Take him off as much grain as you can, try to buy the most concentrated grain you can so you can feed less. Feed beet pulp, it's "forage" technically, so it's better for the stomach than grain.
                          I hope my advice is good, it's what I did for my TB and he's good now, none of his ulcer symptoms have cropped back up, and trust me, I'm watching like a hawk.
                          Good luck and jingles for your boy!
                          come what may

                          Rest in peace great mare, 1987-2013

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                          • Original Poster

                            #33
                            Agree, I just ordered 2 small hole hay nets-Saturday my (now poor) husband and I are going hay shopping. I figure if I supply the hay, fill the hay nets all they have to do is hang them...Right?

                            Vet says no Alfalfa until after we are done with Gastrogard, just all of the good grass hay he will eat.

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