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  • BEWARE OF TRACTOR SUPPLY MINERAL OIL

    This is my first time posting over here (member of FLAhorse) so, I will give a quick introduction before describing the issue with the mineral oil.

    I am 25, I have two horses. A breeding stock paint mare and a mini/pony gelding.

    Ok, onto the issue.

    Awhile back ago (probably about a month-two months ago) I had purchased the "Mineral Oil Light" from my local Tractor Supply. When I got back to the barn and I opened it, it kind of had a plastic type smell to it. I figured it was just the plastic bottle that it came in. So, I gave some to my mare.

    Next evening, I came in, opened the mineral oil bottle again, and it had a very alcohol type smell to it. I asked people at the barn what they thought- and they told me the exact same thing- it smelled like rubbing alcohol.

    I called Tractor Supply- told them of the problem. The next day, I called the company. Through some e-mails, I was told by one person that mineral oil is SUPPOSE to have that smell. I said no way, mineral oil is suppose to be a odorless, tasteless product. Never smelled this smell before. After the company hem halled, they finally told me to send some samples of it it.

    Long story short, I did that. This was the e-mail I received back from them once they did testing on the samples I sent in:

    Dear Ms. Carroll,

    I just received the final lab results and they did find trace amounts of isopropyl alcohol in one sample and trace amounts of ethanol in all four samples. The amounts were very low (at about one tenth the limit set by the USP) The USP (United States Pharmacopeia) sets the standards for drugs and ingredients used in drugs. Based on these results I conclude that the mineral oil that you received was perfectly fine. I do appreciate you bringing your concerns to our attention. It is always good for us to review our products to make sure that they are of good quality. At this point it appears that the lab has nicely answered our questions and I don’t see any need for further investigation. If you still have any questions or concerns please let me know.

    Sincerely,

    Pete Miller


    So, I figured I would spread this information so horse owners can make their OWN decisions on whether or not they want to give their horses/animals mineral oil that has alcohol in it (even trace amounts.) However, I do know of someone who claims that they themselves had the same problem- yet, it was PURE rubbing alcohol in theirs. It did not even have an oily appearance.

    Once again, this is the mineral oil that Tractor Supply sells. It will say "Mineral Oil Light" and on the BACK of the bottle, it was say Neogen and it will give a 800 number.

    I am really disappointed in Tractor Supply's response, as well as Neogen, who makes this product.

    Tractor Supply did no investigating of their own and even after calling and complaining to them, they made no attempt to smell the other bottles and pull them from the shelves.

    Neogen maybe legally able to keep bottles of mineral oil in production out there that have "traces" of alcohol in them- but who is to say other bottles out there only contain traces of the alcohol? And why is it happening? It shouldn't be happening at all! If it continues to happen, they should be legally bound to putting a label on their mineral oil that says "May contain alcohol!."

    I hope this reaches a lot of people because it needs to- so owners can make their own informed decisions on what they want going into their horse!

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    Ok, good to know, but why were you giving your horse mineral oil?
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      Well, I had tried switching to a round roll of coastal- she got bloated. This wasn't the first time she bloated when on coastal- but last time she had coastal and bloated, I didn't think the coastal was to blame.

      Well, it was. Needless to say, no coastal for her.

      The thing I have found that cures her bloating is lots of mineral oil. Kills the bloat causing bacteria in the stomach.

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        Originally posted by Blondyb View Post

        The thing I have found that cures her bloating is lots of mineral oil. Kills the bloat causing bacteria in the stomach.
        I have never heard anything like that.

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        • #5
          Me either. The only time I'd give a horse oil is for an impaction colic- and that's with a vet's advice.
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          • #6
            Lots of people give mineral oil in bran mash for a couple days prior to shipping long distances. Particularly this time of year when some people are getting ready to head south, so that's a very timely heads up. Thanks.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by CBoylen View Post
              Lots of people give mineral oil in bran mash for a couple days prior to shipping long distances. Particularly this time of year when some people are getting ready to head south, so that's a very timely heads up. Thanks.
              That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking the sentence about 'kills the bloat causing bacteria in the stomach' part.

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                [QUOTE=Blondyb;5207787]
                I just received the final lab results and they did find trace amounts of isopropyl alcohol in one sample and trace amounts of ethanol in all four samples. The amounts were very low (at about one tenth the limit set by the USP)Sincerely,


                Have read the entire thread.....and have to say I think this is an overreaction. Ethanol is going to digest just like it does when you drink a glass of wine...won't hurt the horse (in fact, one of mine years ago would pick and eat the fermenting plums from the wild plums along my property line and get positively drunk on them...other than walking a bit funny for an hour or so he was fine and those things were REALLY fermented!). Isopropyl alcohol isn't good for them but trace amounts in an animal the size of a horse isn't going to do damage either.

                Mineral oil in/with bran for keeping the gut lubricated for hauling is great. Mineral oil for impaction colics is standard. Mineral oil doesn't kill bacteria in the gut but lubricates the gut (it doesn't absorb) so that solids and gasses move through more easily. To do a good job of this takes something like a gallon of oil for the average to larger sized horse.
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                  #9
                  In response to the question about mineral oil...killing the gas so to speak, here is a better explanation of it. "Robert N. Oglesby DVM
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                  Posted on Tuesday, Jun 14, 2005 - 2:12 pm: Edit PostPrint Post
                  Wow....I would have thought a horse would turn up his nose at 1 qt mineral oil, almost no matter how much bran you put in it. I will have to give it a try.

                  I think mineral oil is important in fresh grass colics or any gassy colic. The gas comes from maldigestion and rapid fermentation and the oil hypothetically slows this down along with inhibiting the uptake of toxins produced by the rapid bacterial growth and a quart (1 liter) is probably enough."

                  http://www.horseadvice.com/horse/messages/4/20605.html

                  I understand that people may not be overly concerned with a small amount of alcohol. But if you give it on a weekly basis (bran mash) then overtime, it could cause damage.

                  Not only that, but just because MY bottle allegedly only has trace amounts in it doesn't mean that other bottles do not have more (or less.)

                  If small amounts of alcohol are getting in, who is to say the next bottle is not getting even more alcohol?

                  Also, when I spoke with a gentleman up at Florida Agriculture, he explained to me that it does not matter how much alcohol is in it, there should be NONE. He said the problem with rubbing alcohol is, contaminants are added to sway humans from attempting to drink it. Thus, drinking those contaminants would not be good for the horse and could cause problems. I do not know how true this is. But this is something that he told me.

                  I guess I myself, would rather go with mineral oil that hasn't had problems in the past. Especially if they refused to fix the issue.

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                  • #10
                    Big difference between " oil hypothetically slows this down along with inhibiting the uptake of toxins produced by the rapid bacterial growth" and "Kills the bloat causing bacteria in the stomach."

                    Be very, very careful force-feeding mineral oil. I don't recall the correct term, but it has the property of not inducing the swallow reflex, and this can cause the horse (or human, or any animal) to aspirated it into the lungs.

                    There is no need to feed mineral oil on a regular basis. As CBoylen mentioned, that is fine.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by JB View Post
                      Be very, very careful force-feeding mineral oil. I don't recall the correct term, but it has the property of not inducing the swallow reflex, and this can cause the horse (or human, or any animal) to aspirated it into the lungs.
                      Correct. Because it is odorless (well, maybe not this batch!), tasteless and has an oily consistency, it is VERY easy for an animal to aspirate mineral oil. Once in the lungs, it induces a horrible granulomatous pneumonia which can often lead to death, depending on how much was aspirated.

                      I prefer to give my mineral oil via stomach tube when needed (but don't try this at home, either!)
                      ~Nancy~

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                        #12
                        Wouldn't the animal cough if it was aspirated?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Blondyb View Post
                          Wouldn't the animal cough if it was aspirated?
                          Yes but often that means it has already gotten down there and caused problems. The point is that mineral oil is easy to aspirate.
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                          • #14
                            Is the mineral oil you are giving your horse food grade mineral oil? If you are purchasing a jug of something meant to be used as a lubricant (not fed to animals/people) then it will most likely not be as clean.

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                            • #15
                              This is the only MO I found on the TSC site, and it's most definitely not food grade.
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by sketcher View Post
                                Is the mineral oil you are giving your horse food grade mineral oil? If you are purchasing a jug of something meant to be used as a lubricant (not fed to animals/people) then it will most likely not be as clean.
                                On the back of the label, it says to be fed to livestock/horses.

                                Not for humans I would gather, but you would think it would be clean if being fed to livestock/horses.

                                I called other mineral oil companies that supply mineral oil to the feed stores and they all assured me that they did not have any type of alcohol in their mineral oil. And I know for a fact it sure doesn't smell like it either!

                                Either way, people give their horses mineral oil alot of times with bran. Would this reduce the risk of aspirating?

                                I only give mine mineral oil when she gets bloated- and that is very rare- and mostly due to coastal which she is definitely not getting anymore.

                                When I have given it to her in the past however, it was always with bran and her grain, never just the mineral oil alone.

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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by JB View Post
                                  This is the only MO I found on the TSC site, and it's most definitely not food grade.
                                  Hmmm...maybe they got smart and went with a different company?

                                  This is the product: http://www.neogen.com/animalsafety/i...eralOil_lg.jpg

                                  I still would check the new bottle and make sure there is no "Neogen" on the back. The container I got says Ideal on the front, but on the back, it is a Neogen number.

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