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    How important is the chromium when feeding magnesium?

    Or, is there any reason I can't simply feed my horse magnesium pills from the store vs. buying something like Quiessence? It's SO much cheaper if I can just buy the human pills and feed those.
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    Yes, it would be cheaper but you could make a mess.
    Minerals, in high and low levels, tie up other minerals, depending on the levels of yet other minersls. There are sooo many permutations- calcium, phosphorous, copper, zinc, manganese, selenium, cobalt, iodine..... I would be inclined to spend the money on a formulation that has had success. Simply adding magnesium could unbalance other important minerals in your horse's diet.
    Now, if your vet told you to go ahead and try it, that would be another story. But I'd guess your vet will tell you to go with a formula balanced for your locale.

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    • #3
      It's true that there are checks and balances in the "system", but a healthy animal will utilize what it needs and dump the rest, within reason. You can feed store magnesium pills, no problem. Whether they're a savings or not--you have to do the math.
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        It would cost me under $12/month to feed the pills from the store, vs. whatever Quessience is - I think it's around $35 or $40/month, and I'd have to pay shipping?

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        • #5
          How about combining Remission (Mg + Chromium) & Magnesium Oxide from Uckele (availabe at SmartPak).
          Use only 1/4th to 1/3rd dose of Remission, coz the chromium is quite high per full dose and top up with 5,000mg MagOx from Uckele, will be cheaper too.
          This combo lasts me forever.

          Or you could buy Mg at places like purebulk.com.

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          • #6
            You might try Remission. It's cheaper than Quiessence. I have fed just plain magnesium (Mag/Ox from the feed store for a few cents per pound) but never really found that it did anything, though I have seen a reduction in weight and cresty neck with the use of Remission.

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            • #7
              I would be interested in knowing that. I feed smart calm it has lots of Mg but no chromium. smartpak doesn't have remission. Not sure what that is.

              Someone did suggest that I take the label to a pharmacy that does compounding and they could make up the same thing. Not sure if it would be cheaper, I never checked.

              Also don't pay shipping use the smartpak free shipping code (there is a COTH thread for this.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Lieslot View Post
                How about combining Remission (Mg + Chromium) & Magnesium Oxide from Uckele (availabe at SmartPak).
                Use only 1/4th to 1/3rd dose of Remission, coz the chromium is quite high per full dose and top up with 5,000mg MagOx from Uckele, will be cheaper too.
                This combo lasts me forever.

                Or you could buy Mg at places like purebulk.com.
                feed stores also sell magOx in 50 lb bags, I like Blue Seal the best.
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                  Originally posted by Flying Hearts View Post
                  It would cost me under $12/month to feed the pills from the store, vs. whatever Quessience is - I think it's around $35 or $40/month, and I'd have to pay shipping?
                  Where are you buying the Quiessence? I pay $20 a month (usually with free shipping) from smartpak.

                  Also consider what form the magnesium is in in the pills and if it's as bioavailable as the form in Quiessence. If not, then you'll have to feed a higher dosage to get the same amount.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Lieslot View Post
                    How about combining Remission (Mg + Chromium) & Magnesium Oxide from Uckele (availabe at SmartPak).
                    Use only 1/4th to 1/3rd dose of Remission, coz the chromium is quite high per full dose and top up with 5,000mg MagOx from Uckele, will be cheaper too.
                    This combo lasts me forever.

                    Or you could buy Mg at places like purebulk.com.
                    HOw much chromium is in Remission? I just bought a bucket of it and it is listed in the ingredients, but not in the analysis per ounce.

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                    • #11
                      I used to feed the magnesium pills from Wal-Mart. If you want a little chromium you can simply add a bit of corn oil. I now feed Magnesium 5,000 pellets from Smartpak. They are a great value, very cheap and my horses love the flavor.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Androcles View Post
                        HOw much chromium is in Remission? I just bought a bucket of it and it is listed in the ingredients, but not in the analysis per ounce.
                        Valley Vet's website says 14 mg. per Ounce. But why that's not on the label? Don't know.

                        http://www.valleyvet.com/ct_detail.h...e-3ee2db9f7b2f

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                        • #13
                          I think it really depends on your horse and your reason for feeding it. I feed Remission to help keep weight, fat pads, and cresty necks down; Quiessence didn't do anything for my horses. So in my case, I *think* the higher chromium is the ticket. But if I were feeding for calming effects, the answer may be different.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by dwblover View Post
                            . If you want a little chromium you can simply add a bit of corn oil. .
                            'splain por favor

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                            • #15
                              Natural sources of Chromium include corn oil, cloves, whole grain cereals, meat, and brewer's yeast. Of course you will get more from a supplement, but it is still present in corn oil.

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                              • #16
                                Corn oil is natural? And how much would one need to give to get a measurable amount of chromium?

                                (All of the "cornoilisevilomega6" people are gasping in horror at the very thought)
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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by dwblover View Post
                                  Natural sources of Chromium include corn oil, cloves, whole grain cereals, meat, and brewer's yeast. Of course you will get more from a supplement, but it is still present in corn oil.

                                  HMMM, interesting, never heard that before!! Is it also present in soybean oil?...or olive oil??

                                  Originally posted by deltawave View Post
                                  Corn oil is natural? And how much would one need to give to get a measurable amount of chromium?
                                  Same thing I was wondering...that, and whether or not it was present in other oils???

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                                  • #18
                                    No, it is really only found in corn oil. IMO corn oil is much closer to "natural" than most supplements on the market. I doubt any studies have been done on the exact level of chromium in corn oil, but many places mention it as a good source of dietary chromium. Mentioned on quite a few diabetes-related sites as well.

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