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  • Generic ulcergard? A little help?

    Ok, so has anyone ever heard of this? Generic ulcergard, available from :

    https://www.petoptions.com/index.cfm...roduct_id/9697

    Is this the same?? it is a company in Canada. I called, they said it was the exact same thing, and it is a THIRD of the price.

    Anyone heard of this?

    Before I buy, I wanted to consult the wise minds of COTH...
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  • #2
    Ulgergard as oppossed to Gastrogard?

    Yes. They are the same thing, work the same and ulcergard is way cheaper

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      #3
      No, this was a generic ulcergard

      Thanks! but this is for generic ulcergard, no scrip, but it is about $13.87 per tube.

      Same dose. 2.28 gms of omeprazole.

      have you seen this? It's from Canada- the omeprazole ships from a company in the UK?
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      • #4
        No label information, just "omeprazole", makes me very, very leery. Omeprazole is VERY susceptible to the digestive juices, which is why just popping ome pills down the horse is not going to do anything - destroyed before it gets a chance to work.

        It looks like the real Ulcergard box, but... To be calling it "generic"?
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Brandy76 View Post
          Thanks! but this is for generic ulcergard, no scrip, but it is about $13.87 per tube.

          Same dose. 2.28 gms of omeprazole.

          have you seen this? It's from Canada- the omeprazole ships from a company in the UK?
          OK, the link took me to regular ulcergard paste. Is this what your talking about?

          http://www.horseprerace.com/canadian...FZlC5godoHt-7Q

          Seems legit, with case study information at the bottom. I would try it. I mean if it doesn't work out, it's not like you have wasted $100/tube...

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          • Original Poster

            #6
            yes.

            JB- that was my first thought fromt he original link.

            Sar2008 - that's a different website than the link I had, but at least that explains it.

            I am leery, too, I really appreciate the input!

            Did you look at the link that I went to - the pet options one? Or maybe I can order from the link you listed, Sar.
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              Originally posted by JB View Post
              No label information, just "omeprazole", makes me very, very leery. Omeprazole is VERY susceptible to the digestive juices, which is why just popping ome pills down the horse is not going to do anything - destroyed before it gets a chance to work.

              It looks like the real Ulcergard box, but... To be calling it "generic"?
              I think one reason Merial's product is so effective is the way it is delivered into the digestive system--like JB said, it is susceptible to the digestive juices, and Merial's product prevents it from breaking down before it gets to where it needs to go. I *think* that's what I remember being told when I had my horse scoped.

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                #8
                Thanks! Tempting as it was, I broke and just bought the dang ulcergard.

                It would have been such a happy thing to get the exact same thing for $13.87 per tube, though!!
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                Be kinder than necessary, for everyone is fighting a battle of some kind.

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                • #9
                  There's also one called E-Gard that a lady at my barn uses. I'm not sure where she buys it, but just wanted to put it out there. She said it's much cheaper and works well.
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                  • #10
                    I think one reason Merial's product is so effective is the way it is delivered into the digestive system
                    So Merial has been insisting vigorously for years. And yet generic omeprazole is extremely effective and widely used in humans. Not the same species, yes, perfectly aware of that. But Merial has got people absolutely paralyzed with all this talk about how ONLY their product works. Based upon small studies conducted and sponsored by . . . guess who!

                    Wait until that patent expires--the price will PLUMMET, and Merial (or someone else) will (about 6-12 months before the fact, write it down) come out with something NEWER and BETTER.
                    Click here before you buy.

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                    • #11
                      There is a company which compounds the omeprazole for horses with a delayed or protective coating so it doesn't break down until after the stomach (which is what I think makes it work correctly) in a powder form (granuales enteric coated or something) which is drasitcally cheaper - something like $150.00 for4 28 days or something. As far as I am concerned, omeprazole with the correct coating is good. I haven't tried it (yet) but cannot see why it wouldn't work just fine, as long as its forumated correctly, as above.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by deltawave View Post

                        Wait until that patent expires--the price will PLUMMET, and Merial (or someone else) will (about 6-12 months before the fact, write it down) come out with something NEWER and BETTER.
                        I got paid $100 to take a survey on equine ulcer treatments. The questions lead me to believe that they do in fact have alternatives they are working on to try to hold on to their market share once the patent is over. Most questions were phrased "what would you pay for XXXX?"
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                        • Original Poster

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                          So the whole Canadian generic ulcergard thing- no good?

                          Canadian MEdicine shop, I think. If youtype in ulcergard, it gives you that, plus the alternative generic.

                          I went to:

                          pet options
                          canadian medicine shop


                          they both had the same thing.
                          It was 7 syringes of 2.28gms each for $93!!!
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                          You're with me every moment, my big red horse.

                          Be kinder than necessary, for everyone is fighting a battle of some kind.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by deltawave View Post
                            So Merial has been insisting vigorously for years. And yet generic omeprazole is extremely effective and widely used in humans. Not the same species, yes, perfectly aware of that. But Merial has got people absolutely paralyzed with all this talk about how ONLY their product works. Based upon small studies conducted and sponsored by . . . guess who!

                            Wait until that patent expires--the price will PLUMMET, and Merial (or someone else) will (about 6-12 months before the fact, write it down) come out with something NEWER and BETTER.
                            Well, omeprazole is omeprazole...their patent centres around the formulation I believe.

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                            • #15
                              Correct. And their formulation is what's making them their billions. They aren't going to let it go away without a struggle.
                              Click here before you buy.

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                              • #16
                                I get enteric-coated omeprazole from Omeprazole Direct and it works well for my horse. He gets the maintenance dose of 1 pk/day. If you buy it in the largest size, it works out to about $1.50/day for maintenance, $4.50/day to treat (3 pks). The enteric coating is what allows the omeprazole to pass through the stomach and be taken up through the intestine.

                                http://www.equine.omeprazoledirect.com/

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                                • #17
                                  Generic Ulcerguard

                                  I use the generic version of Ulcerguard any time my mare puts a foot on the trailer or shows. It is cheap and works great!!!! People use generic meds all the time...they work just as well. Of course the big companies hate it...they lose $$$ The vets don't push it as they will lose kick backs and the drastic markup! The only problem is that it takes a while to ship because of customs in Canada...so order early.

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                                  • #18
                                    I was interested in the Pre-race omeprazole too. After reading the fine print and coming to the understanding that it is NOT FDA approved, I passed and retreated to the regulated UlcerGuard

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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by SimonandGus View Post
                                      After reading the fine print and coming to the understanding that it is NOT FDA approved, I passed and retreated to the regulated UlcerGuard
                                      So what if it's not FDA approved?

                                      The US isn't the only country capable of developing, testing, and producing ulcer meds for horses. Horses in other countries get ulcers too and are treated by products produced in those countries that safely and effectively help them.

                                      It's not illegal to buy these products and use them.

                                      I buy omeprazole from http://www.equine.omeprazoledirect.com/

                                      It works well for my horse and I pay a fraction of the cost.

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                                      • #20
                                        What do you mean it's not FDA approved?
                                        Click here before you buy.

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