Announcement

Collapse

Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You're responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the Forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it--details of personal disputes may be better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts, though are not legally obligated to do so, regardless of content.

Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting. Moderators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts unless they have been alerted and have determined that a post, thread or user has violated the Forums' policies. Moderators do not regularly independently monitor the Forums for such violations.

Profanity, outright vulgarity, blatant personal insults or otherwise inappropriate statements will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

Users may provide their positive or negative experiences with or opinions of companies, products, individuals, etc.; however, accounts involving allegations of criminal behavior against named individuals or companies MUST be first-hand accounts and may NOT be made anonymously.

If a situation has been reported upon by a reputable news source or addressed by law enforcement or the legal system it is open for discussion, but if an individual wants to make their own claims of criminal behavior against a named party in the course of that discussion, they too must identify themselves by first and last name and the account must be first-person.

Criminal allegations that do not satisfy these requirements, when brought to our attention, may be removed pending satisfaction of these criteria, and we reserve the right to err on the side of caution when making these determinations.

Credible threats of suicide will be reported to the police along with identifying user information at our disposal, in addition to referring the user to suicide helpline resources such as 1-800-SUICIDE or 1-800-273-TALK.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it's understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users' profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses -- Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it's related to a horse for sale, regardless of who's selling it, it doesn't belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions -- Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services -- Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products -- While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements -- Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be "bumped" excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues -- Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators' discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the �alert� button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your �Ignore� list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you'd rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user's membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 5/9/18)
See more
See less

Random rage in gelding

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

    Random rage in gelding

    I have a 10 year old warmblood who has stopped showing for a bit. I’ve owned him three years. When I bought he he was being given depo and we continued until last October when the safety of administration became and issue. Since then he is (obviously) less quiet, tougher to ride. But he also randomly will exhibit explosive rage in the field wi th his pasture mates - chasing them with the whites of his eyes showing, resulting in him dripping with sweat and having to be brought in. This has happened randomly about three times in ten months. When he is brought in, he is visibly upset by his behavior and very worried. He is NOT an aggressive horse on the ground. He’s sweet, albeit a little pushy. Has anyone ever seen anything like this?

    #2
    I'd be getting a vet workup, ASAP. He could have a brain tumor, he could be in pain, any number of things.

    Comment

      Original Poster

      #3
      My vet has been involved. We were just brainstorming last night about tumors and /or possible cryptorchid.

      Comment


        #4
        For safety, i would do solo turnout.

        Comment


          #5
          Yeah, solo turnout and I wouldn't be riding him without an answer either.

          I am guessing pinched nerve somewhere that only happens under specific circumstances or tumor.

          Comment


            #6
            I was going to suggest cryptorchid --but your vet already there --I think that can be diagnosed by a blood test --used to haul a nut-case gelding (only a couple of times) that "smelled wrong." He would load fine, but kick in the trailer and sit on the butt bar --he, like your horse was randomly aggressive toward others and his owner. I kept telling the woman who owned him to have him checked --seriously --he smelled wrong --not horsey or grassy --but stronger --like a dog when it's afraid --very musky. Turned out he was cryptorchid --so the owner donated him to a handicapped riding program, where he did not work out, but a volunteer there took him and I hear he's doing ok with her in a solo environment.

            Comment


              #7
              Definitely test his testosterone as a first step but some geldings still act a bit chemically imbalanced for lack of a better term. I don’t know if safer forms of hormones would help.

              Comment


                #8
                What herd mates is he turned out with?

                My gelding cannot be turned out with my mares. He chases them and gets them agitated. I tried taking him camping. He chased my mare all night long, that was before I realized it's a reoccurring issue. In his case, he gets agitated about something else - neighbors moving around, bugs biting, etc and decides to go after the mares. I blame it on getting gelded late and his anxiety issues.

                Comment


                  #9
                  Originally posted by Foxglove View Post
                  I was going to suggest cryptorchid --but your vet already there --I think that can be diagnosed by a blood test --used to haul a nut-case gelding (only a couple of times) that "smelled wrong." He would load fine, but kick in the trailer and sit on the butt bar --he, like your horse was randomly aggressive toward others and his owner. I kept telling the woman who owned him to have him checked --seriously --he smelled wrong --not horsey or grassy --but stronger --like a dog when it's afraid --very musky. Turned out he was cryptorchid --so the owner donated him to a handicapped riding program, where he did not work out, but a volunteer there took him and I hear he's doing ok with her in a solo environment.
                  That was not where I expected that story to go
                  why did she think a randomly aggressive horse would be good around handicapped?

                  Comment


                    #10
                    The former friend in my post (and we were great friends for 30+ years) has often a topic of my whining on COTH --while in her (and my) younger years --we seemed to be greatly alike in our love of horses, knowledge, skill, and goals, gradually she changed, or I did. For too long I over looked the changes and kept trying to get the old vibe back -but gave up (with the help of COTH) and let the friendship die a natural death. I posted just too many times about the differences between us that made me angry/unhappy/irritated. Donating the psycho horse to a handicapped program was one of her (too many to list) questionable actions. Having said that, the organization that accepted the horse had a long solid history of a great program. There were many vets and resources available to evaluate horses. It may well be they "try them all" then weed out what works and what doesn't after a trial period. The horses that are not suitable are placed elsewhere --and any profit made is put back into the organization. And in fairness, at our farm we had a nice-on-paper OTTB that simply did not work out in our jumping program --great on the flat, but never figured out that white poles needed to be jumped not stepped over --we kept trying for 3 years then donated him to a college equestrian program where he excelled in dressage. Happy horse, happy us. We filled his stall with a horse that took my daughter to Intermediate 3-Day competition.

                    It may well be the subsequent owner of the Psycho Horse had him treated successfully.

                    And no worries that my former friend will continue to make questionable horse decisions --or irritate me. I have heard she has given up riding, although still has two horses on her farm (I see them in the pasture, very fat horses); and we are no longer in contact on any level --every now and then I do have a random thought --Oh, I should tell Mary . . .but then I think about all the baggage that Mary brings with her any time we ever talked --not since last spring . . .and the thought goes away . . .

                    Comment


                      #11
                      Is he on MSM? There are threads about how that can really cause bizarre, even aggressive behavior. I experienced it first hand, and it’s real.

                      Comment


                        #12
                        Originally posted by myalter1 View Post
                        When I bought he he was being given depo and we continued until last October when the safety of administration became an issue.
                        Obviously there was a reason he was on depo. I would be pursuing that line of inquiry for finding a reason for the behavior.

                        Comment


                          #13
                          I have a gelding who started attacking his senior pasture mate... treated him for gastric ulcers... now he can still be a little bit of an ahole... he's nothing like he was.. no more attacking. I treated him with OTC Nexium and would not hesitate to do it again if he started beating up my old man again.,
                          Boyle Heights Kid 1998 16.1h OTTB Dark Bay Gelding
                          Quiet Miracle 2010 16.1h OTTB Bay Gelding
                          "Once you go off track, you never go back!"

                          Comment

                          Working...
                          X