Announcement

Collapse

Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You're responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the Forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it--details of personal disputes may be better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts, though are not legally obligated to do so, regardless of content.

Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting. Moderators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts unless they have been alerted and have determined that a post, thread or user has violated the Forums' policies. Moderators do not regularly independently monitor the Forums for such violations.

Profanity, outright vulgarity, blatant personal insults or otherwise inappropriate statements will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

Users may provide their positive or negative experiences with or opinions of companies, products, individuals, etc.; however, accounts involving allegations of criminal behavior against named individuals or companies MUST be first-hand accounts and may NOT be made anonymously.

If a situation has been reported upon by a reputable news source or addressed by law enforcement or the legal system it is open for discussion, but if an individual wants to make their own claims of criminal behavior against a named party in the course of that discussion, they too must identify themselves by first and last name and the account must be first-person.

Criminal allegations that do not satisfy these requirements, when brought to our attention, may be removed pending satisfaction of these criteria, and we reserve the right to err on the side of caution when making these determinations.

Credible threats of suicide will be reported to the police along with identifying user information at our disposal, in addition to referring the user to suicide helpline resources such as 1-800-SUICIDE or 1-800-273-TALK.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it's understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users' profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses -- Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it's related to a horse for sale, regardless of who's selling it, it doesn't belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions -- Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services -- Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products -- While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements -- Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be "bumped" excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues -- Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators' discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the �alert� button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your �Ignore� list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you'd rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user's membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 5/9/18)
See more
See less

Euthanasia vs. Eye removal

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

    #21
    Either decision could be the right decision. If it were my horse I would have him see an ophthalmologist. I had a horse go partially blind in one eye, my reg vet diagnosed the issue and I got a second opinion from the specialist. The vet who is a fantastic well regarded vet completely misdiagnosed him. The specialist said that there is limited training on eyes in vet school and she had basically studied them, just eyes, for an additional 2 years. Same with lameness your money is better spend just going straight to the lameness specialist who looks at it all day. For peace of mind I'd get that second opinion. They could look in the other eye and tell that uevitis is starting so surgery wouldn't be a kind option. Or they could even have something else to treat the bad eye to avoid surgery.

    Comment


      #22
      Is one of your drops blood serum? I'm not sure if there's any contraindications specific to uveitis, but it seems to improve comfort for normal corneal ulcers. And you can maybe get a larger amount spun so you can just sort of spray it in, instead of trying to accurately place it.

      Comment


        #23
        Like it or not, finances figure into decisions like this. Sometimes the money for specialists and extensive procedures ( which also are not always available without overnight travel) is just not there or cannot be justified when the prognosis is iffy.

        No need to feel guilty when thats the case and money is better spent on a healthier horse that can be helped with simple groceries and better basic care. Lord knows theres enough of them out there looking for just that.
        When opportunity knocks it's wearing overalls and looks like work.

        The horse world. Two people. Three opinions.

        Comment


          #24
          We had an Appy x with uveitis. She was very spooky and reactive until the eye was removed. Now she's back to her original confident, laid back self. That being said, I personally don't think either decision is wrong.

          Comment


            #25
            I have a horse blind in one eye. He's still a wonderful riding horse. I would also encourage you to Google Endo the Blind. He is totally blind after having BOTH his eyes removed. Anything is possible if you are willing to try.

            Comment


              #26
              Originally posted by SharonA View Post
              I support the OP in either decision, but I personally would be euthanizing. It sounds like it feels like managing this illness is alot of work and not alot of light at the end of the tunnel for the OP, and I see no down side to euthanizing, frankly. The OP has already given the horse love, training, and a job, so I feel that at this point, horse could be let go with a clear conscience. Just speaking for myself, I believe that being dead and not in pain, and not at risk for more pain or anxiety, is better than being alive with pain and risk for more pain and uncertainty. (Of course, every situation is different.) But I would euthanize, with love and treats, and give both horse and OP a rest.
              This. You have gone the distance with this horse OP.

              Comment


                #27
                I'd think the odds of the other eye getting uveitis is high. You would have to factor in whether or not the horse would adapt successfully to blindness. You can't really determine that until it actually happens.
                When they don't adapt, it can be a traumatic and horrific situation. I have first hand experience with a horse who lost her mind when she suddenly went completely blind from uveitis. It was such a bad experience that if I ever had another horse diagnosed with recurrent uveitis, I would euthanize.

                Comment


                  #28
                  OP, I’m so sorry you are going through this.

                  If it makes you feel any better, I’m facing a very similar situation with an eye issue in a high maintenance retiree. It sucks. I’m not ready to let go, neither is the horse. But she isn’t tolerating compromised vision well.
                  Don't fall for a girl who fell for a horse just to be number two in her world... ~EFO

                  Comment


                    #29
                    I would suspect the outcome might be dependent on the horses age. I boarded with someone who had to enucleate her 3-4 year old horse and her horse went happily to FEI over time. Many horses adjust, but I'm not sure if yours will (I don't know the situation). I think much depends on their attitude and adjustibility. My friend showed the horse to FEI and now breed her.
                    Proud member of the Colbert Dressage Nation

                    Comment


                      #30
                      He wasn't a happy horse before these issues. He won't be a happy horse afterward. It's ok to say enough and let him go.

                      Comment


                        #31
                        Saw this on boredpanda, might make treatment easier
                        This Bra Used To Protect A Horse's Infected Eye, Whilst Also Allowing It To See



                        Comment


                          #32
                          Dear OP, nothing is easy, is it?

                          We just had one of ours down to New Bolton to have his eye removed. He developed uveitis in his right eye and it had begun to fill with pus. No trauma or any other signs of injury. We are blessed to have such an amazing hospital within a 30min drive from us, so my vet suggested to take him there immediately. He stayed a few nights while they got it under control and sent us home with meds. On his follow up appointment, they determined the eye (which looked amazing btw) was non reactive to light and non-visual. He also had developed an ulcer and while doing an ultrasound, discovered the retinal had detached. We opted to remove the eye right then an there. He came home the same day and recovery was non-eventful. We kept him quiet for one day on stall rest and then we let him out in a small paddock where he could see the other horses. After another day, it was obvious he wanted out and feared he would do worse damage being isolated so we turned him out in his field.

                          He wears the Equi-Visor when out, even at night. His other eye gets ointment once a day as a preventative and we are hoping for the best. He is happy and was back to his normal work within a few days with no residual effects.

                          Whatever you decide, you have to do what you think is best for you and your horse, with the financial and personal considered. No one can fault you for either decision and I only wish you the best in whatever you decide.
                          "Some people will never like you because your spirit irritates their demons"

                          Comment


                            #33
                            I agree with the folks saying that either option is sound and reasonable. My beloved first horse had a problem eye his entire life that we eventually had removed when it became a constant bother to him. It was a quick recovery and he adjusted almost immediately. I almost wish we had removed it sooner. That said, he was a very calm, trusting, and polite horse who was well past the age of high energy misadventures. If you sense that this particular horse would be stressed by the loss of the eye, there is a good risk of the other eye losing vision, or the financial aspect doesn't add up, then euthanasia might be the best option for you and the horse. I don't envy you having to make this choice <3

                            Comment


                              #34
                              I had a horse with a similar story. While removing her eye was an uneventful surgery, she never really adjusted to it. I lost her to colic 5 months after the surgery.

                              If I could do it again, I'd opt to euthanise straight up. She was a troubled case to begin with and I feel like I just prolonged and added to her stress in life.
                              Not my circus, not my monkeys!

                              Comment


                                #35
                                I euthanized a horse with uveitis. He got it in one eye, and went blind in that eye but handled it just fine and that ended the flare-ups. A few years later, the other eye was affected. Flare-ups made him blind in that eye, and he did NOT handle it well at all. He was becoming a danger to himself and others, and was miserable most of the time. He was only 17 and otherwise perfectly healthy, but it was time for him to go.

                                Comment

                                Working...
                                X