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    #61
    OP, so sorry you're going through this and hugs for whatever was going on with him today. Our first homebred was a wobbler, we first realized something was odd about her at around 6 months old. If she pulled back, she'd often flip herself backwards. We didn't realize it at first but it seemed like she just lost where her hind end was. Had the vet out and they diagnosed epiphisitis and said to slow down her growth. It didn't seem to really do much of anything so after a long, long time we just fed her like normal. Just before she turned two I took her to the clinic because it had started getting worse, was having a hard time with the farrier and just before her vet appointment she had a hard time getting up one morning and basically flung herself around her stall to get on her feet and ended up with a swollen hock. Vets did a myelogram and the vertebrae at the base of her skull was crooked. Was told there was basically nothing they could do and she would never be rideable and the more she grew the more dangerous she would become. I had her put down right then, I hated to make her come out of the anesthetic and fight to get to her feet just to euthanize. My heart wishes I'd known enough to ask more questions but my brain also knows the outcome would have been the same. She would have been 26 this year and I still miss her terribly.

    Hopefully it helps a tiny bit to know you're not alone.....
    It's not about the color of the ribbon but the quality of the ride. Having said that, I'd like the blue one please!

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      #62
      Originally posted by Lunabear1988 View Post
      skydy trying banamine. But yeah it might... I'm worried about him.
      I feel so bad for you and your horse. Will he be okay until Wednesday?

      I got the second opinion today, and it was worse than the first. I believe I’ve had my last ride on him. The next decision is whether to spend 7-8K on diagnostic tests or just retire him. There’s so much I still don’t know.

      What are the chances this is treatable with neck injections? Is he in pain? How will this progress? I have another call in to the second vet. She’s pretty accessible so I hope to have more answers.

      I do know that my insurance excludes anything related to kissing spines, so I’m probably going to have to pay out of pocket for everything.

      It’s so heartbreaking when their bodies won’t do what they want them to do.
      BLACK LIVES MATTER

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        #63
        Hope all is going well Lunabear1988

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          #64
          Back at the barn tonight (after I had my SIL check him again earlier ) he is back to eating and bright eyed. Not sure what it was- ulcery from neighbor moving? Sure scared me.

          But the hospital called and said because of a scheduling conflict, they need him tomorrow morning. I guess that settles it. So sad to have a whole day with him taken away. But maybe for the best.

          It feels unreal.

          Thank you guys. You all are so kind and understanding.

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            #65
            Lunabear1988 Hugs and will be thinking of you tomorrow. At least he is feeling better in the meantime.
            The Evil Chem Prof

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              #66
              Originally posted by Bristol Bay View Post

              I feel so bad for you and your horse. Will he be okay until Wednesday?

              I got the second opinion today, and it was worse than the first. I believe I’ve had my last ride on him. The next decision is whether to spend 7-8K on diagnostic tests or just retire him. There’s so much I still don’t know.

              What are the chances this is treatable with neck injections? Is he in pain? How will this progress? I have another call in to the second vet. She’s pretty accessible so I hope to have more answers.

              I do know that my insurance excludes anything related to kissing spines, so I’m probably going to have to pay out of pocket for everything.

              It’s so heartbreaking when their bodies won’t do what they want them to do.
              Hugs.

              Definitely talk to the vet. When trying to decide about diagnostics, try to think about how/if it will change the outcome. As an example, my vet told me that there was no point in doing a myelogram on Skipper because I had no intention of doing basket surgery and he wasn't insured so I didn't have to prove anything to anyone. The back and neck might be separate entities as far as insurance is concerned. A good vet can really help you with something like that.

              I spent two years fighting to keep Star patched together after getting the neck diagnosis. He passed a neuro exam up to the point of the blindfold (which he wouldn't wear, so who knows), but tripped under saddle and the tripping went away with neck injections. The first year was OK. You could hack him and I cantered over a few small brush boxes occasionally. There were trainer and barn issues and I ended up moving him twice (so three different places) over that two year time. He hated the third place. There were ulcers and inflamed intestines, that were treated and from which he recovered, but I really felt that I was fighting the neck and the GI tract. So, I gave up and retired him. He was all of 14 by then. He's 21 now and seems happy--barefoot, no special GI needs, looks pretty sound when he trots around.
              The Evil Chem Prof

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                #67
                Dear Lunabear1988 I am so sorry. So many of us have had to face that painful time , scheduled or in emergency.That's why we understand. Your horse will leave this world quickly and you will feel the pain. That is the debt we pay for having them.
                Time will heal and make it better. Of course it's very difficult in the meantime. I realize that you have been down this road before, but I know that doesn't make it any easier.

                Once you have sent him on his way, try to look forward. There's nothing else to be done after he's gone, only to be kind to yourself.

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                  #68
                  Lunabear1988 So sorry. But I’m glad he seems to have had a comfortable night.

                  Bristol Bay I wouldn’t do myelogram if he’s not a surgery candidate. But I generally don’t like putting a horse under anesthesia if it can be avoided. Have you done ultrasound? That might tell you if injections would be worth a try. Might not make him rideable but could help. Even if there is local inflammation to treat, it may or may not work, and while the injections are invasive, trying once could be worthwhile. But while injections helped my neck horse a lot, I have seen them not work at all on ones with more neuro deficits.

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                    #69
                    My heart will be with you as he makes his journey to the next place. Sending brightest light and peace for you both.

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                      #70
                      Lunabear1988 I’m so sorry for all that you’ve been going through and I’ll be thinking of you and your dear sweet boy today! Big hugs!
                      Building and Managing the Small Horse Farm: http://thesmallhorsefarm.blogspot.com

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                        #71
                        {{{{Lunabear}}}}

                        Susan

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                          #72
                          He's gone. He left this earth with a shiny coat, good weight from good food and fancy shoes. He was calm and content this morning. A gentleman to the end. He had half a tail missing but I'm glad he had someone who wanted to remember him. Not all horses go with someone caring about them. I'm glad I could do that although wish I could have done more...

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                            #73
                            Hugs
                            "You can't really debate with someone who has a prescient invisible friend"
                            carolprudm

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                              #74
                              You couldn’t have done more. Hugs to you.

                              Thank you for comforting others on this thread as you faced this painful outcome.
                              BLACK LIVES MATTER

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                                #75
                                Peggy thanks for sharing your experience. I’m probably just going to accept reality and retire him. He’s high maintenance for other reasons, so I’m hoping I can find somewhere affordable and close.

                                It’s the end of an era for me. I want to keep riding, but I’ll never own another horse.
                                BLACK LIVES MATTER

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                                  #76
                                  Lunabear1988 I’m so very sorry. Thank you for doing right by him!
                                  Building and Managing the Small Horse Farm: http://thesmallhorsefarm.blogspot.com

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                                    #77
                                    Hugs. So sorry!

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                                      #78
                                      Originally posted by Lunabear1988 View Post
                                      He's gone. He left this earth with a shiny coat, good weight from good food and fancy shoes. He was calm and content this morning. A gentleman to the end. He had half a tail missing but I'm glad he had someone who wanted to remember him. Not all horses go with someone caring about them. I'm glad I could do that although wish I could have done more...
                                      Well done. Such a good end you gave him.

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                                        #79
                                        I am crying with you. Takes me back to 4 1/2 years ago when I had to euthanize my boy. Cervical arthritis at just about every vertebra, the result of a trailer accident 10 years before. I did not own him then and his owner did everything possible for him at the time. He recovered and went on to a great jumping career. I knew him and looked after him for 7 years before we could own him. Unfortunately, we only owned him for 2 1/2 years when the arthritis showed its ugly head. He fell on his knees with my DD bare back on him. Luckily, she let go on the reins and jumped off. After that, he was never ridden again, but seemed happy and healthy. Our vet did a neuro exam and advised us to be careful.. He did not know where his feet were. Took him to UofG vet school and were told he should be euthanized as he was a danger to himself and to the BOs. I remember one night where he looked worried and I did not dare go into his stall to put a rain sheet on him...BO said she 'd do it the next morning.. When asked how he was, she said she was afraid he was not going to make it to his field. I called the vet right then and there and it was the longest day for my DD and myself.. We did not want to bring him in, we did not want to change his daily routine... It was so hard! The BO stayed with him.. I did not want to see him fall, but I heard him. We cried, BO, DD and me.. kept his tail.
                                        It was hard BUT i don't feel guilty saying it was also quite a relief. My DD and I did not realize how stressed we had been over this. I have his picture looking down at me right now, We miss him and remember the good times. We have a 28 yo Clydecross at that barn still and we still laugh at his antics.
                                        Lots of hugs to you,

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                                          #80
                                          {{ Lunabear1988 }}
                                          Oh, I have slipped the surly bonds of earth, And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings; John Gilliespie Magee, Jr

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