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Insect sting(s) plus....

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    Insect sting(s) plus....

    (There's a vet involved; I'm just looking for any ideas about what we might be missing)

    My mare got stung by something yesterday, on the left side of her muzzle. The area was quite swollen. She wouldn't eat grass (unheard of!), and would hold her head oddly and drool when chewing a treat. After I put some Benadryl cream on the affected area, the swelling went down and she was back to normal and ate hay as usual. For a bit. Then the swelling came back and that one side of her tongue got a bit swollen too. More Benadryl cream, and the swelling went down quickly. Her appetite is its usual must-be-starving for an hour or two after she gets the Benadryl cream, and then she gets uncomfortable. (Choke has been ruled out.) The Benadryl helped enough yesterday that I even took her out for a short trail ride; I ride in a hackamore so there was nothing near or in her mouth. The affected area has not been painful to touch though it's occasionally a little warm.

    Today she was worse. Way too quiet and there was a lot of drool in front of her stall -- but she would clean up her hay as long as it was in a net. Luckily my vet was nearby and came over. Her vital signs were all normal, and the vet decided to sedate her and look inside her mouth. And.... she has swelling just inside her mouth, but on the *right* side, and even with sedation we could tell it was pretty tender. The vet did not want to give her Banamine because she's already on Equioxx, and no steroids because she's borderline IR. She's been put on ceterizine and the Benadryl cream is applied every time she gets hay. I definitely did not want to ride her today.

    Current hypothesis is that she got stung by some insect on the left side of her face, snapped at it, and got it into her mouth where it stung her again. She has no hives, and her breathing is fine, so it seems to be a localized allergic reaction. If she gets worse, the vet will come back and check to see if the lump inside her mouth has abscessed, and try to lance it from the outside if it has.

    But ... her neck is stiff. She doesn't want to bend it and sometimes doesn't want to put her head down, even for grazing. (She gets limited hand grazing and has a small amount of grass in her paddock.) She is still pretty subdued, other than being extremely hungry for her hay (as is normal for her.) She did get an Omeprazole shot yesterday (which probably should have been postponed) so some of it could be from that, but her neck was a little stiff even before the shot. She did not react badly to the first O. shot a week ago but we're talking about going back to Gastroguard. She's been treated for ulcers recently, and was improving until the dose of Omeprazole was tapered off, so the idea was to do 4 weekly shots and then re-scope her.

    Any ideas?
    You have to have experiences to gain experience.

    1998 Morgan mare Mythic Feronia "More Valley Girl Than Girl Scout!"
    Original Poster

    I am now wondering if she swallowed the insect and got stung a third time, leading to a sore neck. Horses!
    You have to have experiences to gain experience.

    1998 Morgan mare Mythic Feronia "More Valley Girl Than Girl Scout!"


      Sending you and Miss F. hugs! I would be very interested in any updates, as I'm always looking for best ways to make a thin-skinned horse comfortable in a buggy part of the country. Her behavior sounds exactly like that of one of our dogs who had a throat abscess of unknown origin (he recovered fully). But, as I'm sure you're already thinking, horses being horses, the sore neck could be a totally different incident.


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        Originally posted by SharonA View Post
        Sending you and Miss F. hugs! I would be very interested in any updates, as I'm always looking for best ways to make a thin-skinned horse comfortable in a buggy part of the country. Her behavior sounds exactly like that of one of our dogs who had a throat abscess of unknown origin (he recovered fully). But, as I'm sure you're already thinking, horses being horses, the sore neck could be a totally different incident.
        Thank you! As of 5 p.m. the barn manager said she had eaten all of her dinner and was getting through her hay (in a net) pretty quickly. But still drooling a bit.

        She isn't particularly thin-skinned when it comes to bugs. She wears a fly mask when out as she's prone to developing eye infections if flies get around her eyes. Her daily fly spray is Farnam Bite Free, and if I'm going riding in the woods I use EcoVet on her body, keep her fly mask on under her bridle, and use Endure lotion on her nose since she likes to graze out there. Occasionally she gets hives but that could be from pollen as much as anything. Her allergies are much less of an issue at this barn compared to the one in Harvard. I have tried a number of OTC meds and supplements and what works the best is Horse Herb Allergy Blend from Ranch Life Naturals (the owner of the company is a Morgan breeder so that's a plus), and MSM. I'm not normally big on herbal stuff, but for whatever reason, this helps.

        I hope your guy is doing well too!

        (In case anyone's wondering, we know each other IRL and have ridden together for trail rides and hunter paces a few times.)
        You have to have experiences to gain experience.

        1998 Morgan mare Mythic Feronia "More Valley Girl Than Girl Scout!"