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    Last edited by Destiny P.; Feb. 27, 2020, 01:10 PM.

    #2
    At least as long as the vet says.

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      #3
      Why would you make a decision not to ride her before you know what's wrong? Don't assume nothing is broken because she can walk on it. Plenty of fractures are weight bearing. That said, it's probably quite unlikely. Also, don't assume she'll need tons of time off because she got some bumps and bruises. She might be completely fine in a week.

      Don't bute before the vet arrives unless the vet specifically tells you otherwise. It will mask the real severity of the injury.

      If the horse does need bute, but won't eat it in the feed, that's not a reason to not bute the horse. Mix it with water and put it down her throat with a dosing syringe.

      Also, stop putting bute in her grain. It's important to know if she is not eating because she's not feeling well, or if she's not eating because you put bute in it, which tastes bad.

      Hope the vet is there soon and helps you through all of this, and that horse is feeling well again soon.

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        #4
        You need a diagnosis. A horse can appear lame from a bruise that will resolve in a week or the horse may have pulled a suspensory in the chaos and need 6 months stall test. Or anything in between.

        Get the vet to diagnose and take radiographs as needed. Realise that the horse can also pull muscles in the back and hips that can cause long term soreness even after the lower leg issues start to resolve and in a month you may want to get a good horse RMT out to do body work. Not while the horse is sore, but after wards to work out any tightness.

        You are also going to need to learn how to give meds by syringe if the horse won't eat them. Or how to feed them in fig Newton's


        Have you been icing the leg? Do you or your trainer know how to ice? That would be obvious first aid treatment number one for a traumatic leg injury. Just like when humans sprain an ankle.

        Do you have any intelligent adult help on the ground with horse management or is this more a backyard situation? Do you have a mentor to help you learn how to ice, bandage, feed meds, do stall rest, handwalk for rehab, etc?

        If not there are lots of good threads on COTH as horses get injured *all the time"

        I don't know what your freak accident was but you should also spend some time figuring out why it happened and making sure the circumstances dont occur again.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Destiny P. View Post
          Hey everyone, so yesterday was a very eventful day and my horse had a freak accident. It resulted in her getting pretty dinged up, which scraps and cuts. Her right hind is very sore and swollen, but she is putting weight on it. She didn't break anything and is walking with a limp, but still in some pain. She isn't eating her grain which has bute in it, so I can't help her that much. The vet is almost here to check on her, and I am ultimately deciding to not ride her for the next 2 months or even more, regardless of what the vet says. How long would you stay off of her? Thank you so much!

          p.s. I tried attaching photos, but they were too big to attach.
          Ok I am confused. In this original post you say she wouldn't eat bute in her grain so you couldn't help her that much. Now you add a second post saying oh no, you actually gave her Bute by syringe.

          That makes no sense at all

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            #6
            Originally posted by joiedevie99 View Post
            Why would you make a decision not to ride her before you know what's wrong? Don't assume nothing is broken because she can walk on it. Plenty of fractures are weight bearing. That said, it's probably quite unlikely. Also, don't assume she'll need tons of time off because she got some bumps and bruises. She might be completely fine in a week.
            This.

            If the vet didn't xray yesterday you don't know for sure nothing is broken; but depending on the type of injury and location of bruises it may be less likely than a soft tissue injury.

            Bute paste is a lot easier, if your vet can give it to you.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Destiny P.


              Yes, I gave her the bute by syringe by mixing it with honey and peanut butter. It was an unexpected accident that was not her fault and was due to no ones fault, but myself, but I know it won't happen again. We iced her leg yesterday, and twice already today. I've already hand walked her today, and bandage her leg yesterday and today put an aresol bandage around it to let it breathe for a bit, before it gets bandaged again. so yes, I do know how to ice, bandage, give meds, shots, do stall rest, handwork, and whatever else is necessary for her reconvey. She is doing good right now, but still obviously in pain. Now we just have to wait for the vet, who should be here in the next 15 - 30 mins, i know she had an emergency his morning.
              Honey and peanut butter in a syringe? Really? How did that work for you?

              In your first post you said you couldn't get any Bute into her because she wouldn't eat her grain

              Handwalking a horse that has an undiagnosed traumatic injury and is noticeably lame in that leg? Really? Handwalking is for rehab.

              And what's an aerosol bandage? All I can think of is a spray on wound coating. How does that help a swollen sprained leg?

              Sorry OP the details aren't adding up here. We do get a number of new posters who present us with embellished or imaginary accounts of things, and it tends to be in these kinds of details that the poster reveals themselves.
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                #8
                Originally posted by Destiny P.

                About 15 mins ago I gave her some. The story is, is that I don't have any at my personal barn, but the barn that I ride at is right across the street. The first time I went over there, they gave me some and the trainer said to put it in her grain, which I did. And she didn't eat it so I text her and asked her and she responded a little later, and told me to come get more and make it into a paste which I did. I am sorry I am not being clear, I am running around like a crazy chicken with my head cut off. So yes, she did get some about 10 - 15 mins ago. I am going to ask my vet for but paste though, so I don't have to make another paste.
                Is the trainer at the barn? Are you home from school to hold the horse for the vet? Trying to get a clear picture of why you're following the advice of several people and asking for advice on the internet.

                I'm thinking the best friend's mom is not an equine vet or you wouldn't have another vet coming today. So my recommendation is - wait for the real vet. Don't rebandage, don't hand walk. Hopefully the horse is in a stall now.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Destiny P.

                  Yes, yesterday another vet, my best friends mom, came out and cleared her because my main vet could not make it. The vet told me to give her bute in the grain, because she was eating her grain and hay today. She has a lot more than bruises and I can already tell it is going to be a long recovery. She is also a young horse, so I am not going to push it. I was also going to give her a long break so she can be a horse and grow more.
                  I thought you said the vet told you to put the Bute in her grain not the trainer?

                  If this is a true story obviously it will look like I am nitpicking, so apologies if this is all really happening.

                  However IME these are the kinds of extraneous details that posters do get muddled on if they are basically inventing a story for sympathy ( aka s troll).

                  Why did you give her Bute 15 minutes ago after you got advice here to *not* Bute her for the vet exam because that could mask symptoms? I could see Buting her last night to make her test easier knowing it would wear off before the vet arrived today but Buting her today right before the vet arrives doesn't seem that smart. Especially if vet needs to sedate for any reason.
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                  how can a vet "clear" a horse without doing an exam? What diagnoses did your freebie ? Vet give?





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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Destiny P.
                    I am just trying to write on her to get my mind off of the situation.
                    OK this is your problem, then.

                    People on COTH will give you advice if you ask for it. But they're not going to just chit chat while you wait for the vet.

                    Your story sounds a little wacky so people are getting suspicious that is it not real, or that parts of it are not real. Often, in cases like this it's because the poster doesn't actually want to get a vet out because it will cost them money.

                    The only answer here is that no one can give you advice without seeing the horse. If you have an equine vet coming - they will tell you how long to rest the horse, and what the treatment needs to be. We can only guess.

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                      #11
                      Well, I was expecting worse than these photos. They don't look deep enough to stitch, but look like they could be hard to bandage easily. The vet should give them a good cleaning and probably give you antibiotics because leg wounds can turn bad quickly...especially for animals because you can't always keep them clean. Depending on swelling and lameness exam it may turn out to be no big deal.

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                        #12
                        Ok I see a horse with scrapes. I can't tell anything from that. You need a vet out for x-rays and you need to follow the advice of the vet from hereon.

                        Some horse's legs blow up from minor scrapes. Some blow up even from scratches (the fungal infection). Some get very sore from a scrape

                        But horse could have a hairline fracture, a bone chip, a bone bruise, or a ligament anywhere in the lower leg or hoof. So you need multiple x-rays.

                        We cannot diagnose or predict. All we can say is to keep horse in a stall to minimize movement and wait for the vet.

                        Hope it is a minor injury! Do keep us updated as to what happens.


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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Destiny P.

                          I am not only using this to spare time, I am seeing what you would do it my situation. The vet called and said she just left the emergency call she had. I will try to edit and upload more photos, it is had to do it on a phone. I will also post a vet explaining what happened on my youtube when we know what is going on.
                          In my situation I would get the vet out ASAP, I would keep the horse quiet in a stall, and I would be reluctant to ice over an open wound. How did you find icing affected the open wound? Did you use a topical on the scrapes and if so what?

                          Honestly I would be unlikely to be on COTH asking advice. I would be talking to my trainer/ trimmer and my vet.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Destiny P.
                            That's what my thought is, I just hand walked her again and she is not limping as bad. When I first captured her in the corner after it happened, I was most nervous of the wound that was on the inner sides of her leg, because it what spewing blood. That one was the hardest to bandage, but I managed, but I could only do the bottom part. I edit some photos from this morning before I reapplied to antibiotics and spray.
                            Why are you still handwalking her? Our advice here was to leave her quiet in her stall until the vet sees her.

                            The photos you show look complete fresh wounds, no treatment?

                            Leave her alone with some hay and wait for the vet.




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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Scribbler View Post

                              Leave her alone with some hay and wait for the vet.
                              Really. There is no benefit in walking her yet and only potential damage.

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                                #16
                                Have you heard from the vet yet? That really doesn't look that bad, I've seen so, so much worse. If you are worried though I would leave her in the stall as others said until the vet can get there.

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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Destiny P.

                                  I just got down with the vet, she is looking good, Although we can't detect a hairline fracture for a few weeks, we can see if it is one with symptoms. We were most worried about internal injuries like a pulled muscle or her hurting her fibula by the way she slid. From watching it all happen, it was a very bad accident, and she is very lucky she didn't break her hip, her front left, and hind right, or tear anything.
                                  Did the vet give you antibiotics? Infection and soft tissue (e.g. ligament) damage would be my main concerns. Of course a fracture is possible (especially not knowing the situation) but tend to be less common. What is the recovery plan?

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                                    #18
                                    Good luck, and I hope she heals quickly and easily. My only advice is to listen to your Equine Vet and follow their advice, because I am sure you will end up with lots of conflicting advice from other people at the Barn who want to help. Even if a lot of the advice is good, the problem is that you'll drive yourself crazy if you try to listen to everyone. It's traumatic when your horse gets hurt, especially if you see it happen, but you can only do your best to treat it according to the vet's advice, and to do what you can to avoid similar accidents in the future.

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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Destiny P.

                                      We are still worried about a hair line fraction, which we can't detect for the next 3 weeks. So just have to watch the swelling, and lameness. The best plan for us is to rinse her foot with cold water 2x a day for 20 mins, and icing it whenever we can. I got some cute so giving it to her as needed. I am not going to put liniment on her hind under the cuts are healed so more. We are using the aerosol spray for all the cuts and scraps with swap around it for the flies. Just keeping an eye on her and walking her. My plan is to stay off of her till I know for sure she is sound and okay, even then I will let her rest more because it was a very tragic incident, even more me. I thought she was going to break her legs and she would have to be put down. She is doing, good right now and eating. The main focus is to get the swelling down and for her to not be lame so we can decide if it is a hair line fracture.
                                      What happened?

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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Postandrails View Post
                                        Good luck, and I hope she heals quickly and easily. My only advice is to listen to your Equine Vet and follow their advice, because I am sure you will end up with lots of conflicting advice from other people at the Barn who want to help. Even if a lot of the advice is good, the problem is that you'll drive yourself crazy if you try to listen to everyone. It's traumatic when your horse gets hurt, especially if you see it happen, but you can only do your best to treat it according to the vet's advice, and to do what you can to avoid similar accidents in the future.
                                        I totally agree with this.

                                        Listen to the vet treating the horse.

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