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  • Blanketing Questions --just two --

    Ancient OTTB [28 years old] who is is good weight but is thin-skinned, needs to wear a blanket [I think] to help with his comfort (bony back even though weight is good) and to keep him from burning calories to keep warm --but here's the problem:

    He has a nice winter coat started. I put a blanket on him last week when it was raining and cold (low 40s), thinking that would keep him comfortable. (he also has a run-in shed). However, when he came in for night feeding, he was sweating under the blanket. As the night temperature was expected to get colder,(30) and it was still raining and windy, I left the blanket on.

    I took the blanket off in the morning and he has enjoyed a nice sunny week with temps in the 40-50 range.

    I brought out a lighter blanket from storage for yesterday --it was 40, raining, windy cold --I put the light blanket on him (more of a rain sheet than a blanket). This morning he was soaking wet under it ---It's supposed to be water-proof, and based on WHERE he was wet --I think he was sweating under it.

    At no point have he or the other three horses been shivering. The other three never wear blankets, all QH from "out west" who have coats like buffalo. There are enough run-in sheds for all the horses to have his own.

    So what to do? Blanket? Don't blanket? Use my best judgment and hope for the best? Photo shows his current weight and condition --

    Second question ---should I re water proof both blankets even though I think he's sweating and it's not the rain? What product is best?
    Last edited by Foxglove; Oct. 30, 2019, 11:34 AM. Reason: Forgot second question

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    Hmm... How heavy of a fill weight was the first blanket?
    I have horses who would definitely sweat in those temps in anything more than a rainsheet if the sun came out.

    If you're thinking about waterproofing check the blankets first to see if they need it. Start with dry blankets and spray the outside with a hose or sump some water on, wait a few minutes and see if it's still dry underneath, if they are I would not rewaterproof them.
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    • #3
      I'd try using a rainsheet on the Old Guy.
      That should allow his own haircoat to insulate & allow enough space for excess body heat to dissipate.

      If he still appears sweaty with the sheet, I'd perform my 4-Point Warmth Check: brisket, belly, flanks & ears.
      If all are warm & dry I consider horse to be warm enough unblanketed.
      Any shivering, wet skin on backs or unhappy demeanor & the game changes, blankets go on.
      Then come off when dry so they can re-fluff.

      It is drizzling cold rain here & my 3 - 19yo pony, 16yo Walker & 5yo mini - are all wet on their backs, but not through to the skin. And all pass the 4-Point. Horse & pony are plushy, mini is already a yak.
      So no sheets or blankets.
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      • #4
        Most horses with a good coat don't need any blanket in the 40's. If it's raining I'd try just a sheet. I have an Amigo Hero sheet (that has somehow held up to group turnout shenanigans..a pure miracle really) that is very light, but Waterproof. So something light would be enough.

        If it gets below freezing, then I'd consider something with fill.

        Horses are cold weather animals, and typically with shelter and hay, they can do alright. But I can understand trying to support an older fellow, and keep ahead of any weight loss that could happen due to cold.

        I've used Nikwax on my turnouts. I wash and re-proof (usually by a professional) every year and haven't had any issues.

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        • #5
          40 and raining on an unclipped horse with shelter I would do a sheet rather than blanket. Do you have a waterproof lightweight sheet you could try?

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          • #6
            You've gotten really good advice already and what we know for sure is you can't have a sweaty horse. Is it possible he and his herd are running around? Does he go into the run-in when it's raining and cold? If so, I'd not blanket until temps are 30 (and no higher during the day) with NO sunshine forecast.

            I've had my horses out ALOT over the years and then enjoy observing their behavior during such times of weather. And then making decisions off who they are as an individual. In 25 yrs of boarding, I've checked many another boarder's horses to find them too warm under their blanket - WITH A KEY FACTOR BEING SUNSHINE.

            I hate being hot and can't imagine what it's like to have all that fur and being hot. Easy way to colic and tie up.

            When mine were on full turnout it was amazing how often they'd be out in horrible weather -- grazing. Clearly some are more comfortable than we would think possible. Blanketing is such a PIA because you have to really monitor them and pull wet blankets and watch the temps and sunshine and it ends up being stressful.

            I just bought Rambo rain sheets (no fill) for my critters who I want out as much as possible and they WON'T have shelter during the day, and they don't run around either. And, I have mid weights and liners for brutal cold.

            Good luck and let us know what you figure out ok?

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            • #7
              Good advice so far. One thing is that there are rainsheets, and there are rainsheets. My mare has a Rambo Supreme no-fill, which is heavy and dark. She doesn't wear it unless it's rainy and below 50 to 55. If it was dry and sunny at those temps, she would get sweaty under it. But other folks in the barn have lighter weight rainsheets for their horses.

              Though she's older, she's an easy keeper, and static electricity from removing a blanket sets her off to the point where just anticipating having her blanket removed makes her very anxious, so she's blanketed as little as possible. This is balanced with the fact that she doesn't get a heavy winter coat. In sunny weather I don't think she'd have anything on unless it was below 35. I personally won't remove her blanket without tying her in her stall and giving her some hay. And following tips I learned here at COTH forums.
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              • #8
                I like a sheet with a liner, like mesh, so it can breathe some.
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                • #9
                  Since he is a senior, is he perchance PPID? PPIDers have a harder time regulating their body temps--either are faster to overheat or can't seem to keep warm, so it's playing around with different sheets and blankets to figure out what works for the individual. My senior gelding is PPID and needs a blanket long before anyone else does, and for this I will use a 180 gram Saxon turnout as they have a short drop--can keep him warm if we have a cold snap, keep him dry if wet weather moves in, but with the short drop, he tends to not overheat because his belly is totally exposed (even though it looks kind of silly on him). BTW, Saxons have great waterproofing and wear like iron, and are really cheap if you catch a sale.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Angela Freda View Post
                    I like a sheet with a liner, like mesh, so it can breathe some.
                    I thought sheets with mesh lining were great, but does anyone make them anymore? Weatherbeeta stopped the last I knew.

                    I second maybe trying one of the lighter denier Amigos sheets, noticeably lighter than the Bravo and most sheets.
                    That's fine, many of us have slid down this slippery slope and became very happy (and broke) doing it. We may not have a retirement, but we have memories ...

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                    • #11
                      Some horses simply run warm regardless of what one might assume by their natural coats. My mare is half TB with the typical thin coat and yet she runs really warm. Have you tried testing her without the sheet in the same weather, and going out and checking how warm (or not) she has remained? Is she eating lots of forage out there too which will create more body warmth on its own? Etc. ☺️
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                      • #12
                        My Arab is a gigantic cold weather wuss until she finishes growing her winter coat (usually late November). After the coat is grown in, she's impervious to everything and does not require blanketing.

                        I try really hard not to blanket her but she was shivering in 40 degree rain yesterday so she earned herself a rain sheet with no fill (after she warmed up under a cooler for a while). We're having slushy snow over the next couple days so the rain sheet is staying on.

                        Mind you, she had a round bale and a 3-sided shelter, but the idiot decided to stand in the cold rain instead. Why? Who knows; she's the boss mare and can go where she likes!

                        She's been known to undress herself completely when she doesn't want to wear a blanket, so if she's leaving it on, I usually know that she needs it.

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                          Paddockwood (and anyone else who wants to read my conclusion based on this thread) ---I went to Wal-Mart and got waterproofing spray and thoroughly sprayed both blankets --let them dry. My current protocol for blanketing is that it must be below 40 for the 12 hours after feeding or I don't blanket. Exception is rain. If it is 40 --windy and rainy --then I light blanket. If it is above 40, regardless, I don't blanket. And on a beautiful sunny day, no wind, --even if it is below 40 --I will strip horse naked and let him play in the sun. Thank you for your help!

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                          • #14
                            Fyi I have never had good luck rewaterproofing sheets. Just be careful if there's a drenching rain and low temps, the sheet may still not be waterproof. Of course, I hope your experience is better than mine.
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                            • #15
                              Do you all call turnout sheets with no fill rain sheets? Or are those two different things?

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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by 2DogsFarm View Post
                                I'd try using a rainsheet on the Old Guy.
                                That should allow his own haircoat to insulate & allow enough space for excess body heat to dissipate.

                                If he still appears sweaty with the sheet, I'd perform my 4-Point Warmth Check: brisket, belly, flanks & ears.
                                If all are warm & dry I consider horse to be warm enough unblanketed.
                                Any shivering, wet skin on backs or unhappy demeanor & the game changes, blankets go on.
                                Then come off when dry so they can re-fluff.

                                It is drizzling cold rain here & my 3 - 19yo pony, 16yo Walker & 5yo mini - are all wet on their backs, but not through to the skin. And all pass the 4-Point. Horse & pony are plushy, mini is already a yak.
                                So no sheets or blankets.
                                Maybe a dumb question, but what part of the horse do you consider to be "brisket"? I am sure it is a legit part of some livestock animals, but I am not familiar with it's usage with respect to horses. I googled, but the whole first page of images was barbecue, and it was making me hungry so I stopped scrolling!

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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by Groom&Taxi View Post

                                  Maybe a dumb question, but what part of the horse do you consider to be "brisket"? I am sure it is a legit part of some livestock animals, but I am not familiar with it's usage with respect to horses. I googled, but the whole first page of images was barbecue, and it was making me hungry so I stopped scrolling!
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                                  Same part of the horse as on a (tasty) steer:
                                  Chest between front legs.
                                  Usually I feel where chest joins the leg - not in the fold where body heat is max, just to one side or the other.
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                                  • #18
                                    If he is wet from rain or from sweating under the blankets, you run a risk of him getting chilled and unable to dry.

                                    If it happens again after you have waterproofed them again, I would leave them off. Especially if he uses the run in shed.

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