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  • stifle injury?

    My friend bought a horse from a kill pen in the last few days.

    It's a sweet gelding but at trot is quite lame. She was made aware that there was a lameness, however it's not visible at walk, so my friend didn't understand it to be so bad.

    She is trying to get him seen, but lives out of town and veterinary appointappointments not as easy to get quickly. this injury is not new.

    It appears in trot that the gelding does not push his body forward, the stride is very sort on that side and so the lameness very pronounced.

    It looks to be in the stifle to me, though I was surprised to see he could walk backwards easily.

    Any idea what she can do in the meantime to help, it's not hot or swollen or anything of the sort, and he is confined in a medium dry lot with her pony.

    I'm guessing it's been a pretty bad injury, maybe ligament tear. He is just a rescue and I'm not sure if there were plans to ride. He is quite young, 7 or 8 I think. I'm not sure what she will spend on diagnosis if the prognosis is poor.

    Any similar stories?

  • #2
    NSAIDs. Try a 3 day course of NSAIDs, first bute two hours before attempting to work (once a day), then 2 days off, then -depending upon size of horse 750 to 1000lb oral dose paste banamine in the same circumstances.

    My reason for doing bute is because it seems to address osteoarthritic conditions. Banamine seems better suited for soft tissue injuries. And the days off in between of course are to let one go out of the system before starting the other.

    Also, quiet turn out in a smaller paddock so hoss doesn't run. Of course, less movement will make arthritis worse.

    Really hard to give any further advice without vet doing diagnostic imaging. But when vet does come, you can tell him your findings after doing the NSAID trials. At least you'll have more data for him to use to diagnose.


    • #3
      There are some very good eyes on this forum. If you could get some video we can help you pin down where he’s hurting.


      • #4
        I've put some footage I was sent here


        • #5
          You might also have him checked for EPM. I really like his looks.


          • #6
            He's keeping his right hind straight and not bringing it up under his body. Definitely something going on there. It does look to be localized and not an overall soreness thing. Hock/hip/stifle on the right hind.
            "Do what you can't do"


            • #7
              Looks like a hip problem?


              • #8
                Wondering what the vet found out is going on there?


                • #9
                  I'd put him in a stall or at least a small turnout by himself. If it isn't new, it likely isn't urgent. If the vet can't come for a week, he'll be ok. Just make sure he's off any NSAIDS for at least 24 hours when the vet comes. I suspect hip or pelvis.


                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Bluey View Post
                    Looks like a hip problem?
                    That’s what I was thinking. I’ll be interested to hear what the vet finds.


                    • #11
                      So my understanding of my friends interpretation is possiblly not technically correct.

                      It's most likely ligament in the stifle, the joint has quite a bit of movement and with manipulation by the vet could bring about mild lock.

                      Vet didn't x-ray as didn't have one, and friend has to take horse into the practice to do further diagnostics.

                      Vet seemed to think it's likely a ligament issue and depending on the time it's been that way will depend on prognosis.

                      Recommended small area and time, has given some pain relief


                      • #12
                        Should probably just clarify that other injury wasn't ruled out, but the immediate lameness is stifle


                        • #13
                          I hope you’ll keep us updated. I’m currently rehabbing an old (like way before I got the horse) stifle injury. I’m very interested in how this goes.


                          • #14
                            Yes, please keep us updated. I spent all summer rehabbing a stifle injury and it wasn't nearly as pronounced as the video you've posted. Good luck!


                            • #15
                              I think the likely outcome is paddock sound not riding sound.
                              Never say never I guess


                              • #16
                                With a hind leg I can think of a list of things, none of which can be Dxed w/o radiographs and ultrasounds. Some fixes can be expensive and time consuming, hence his residence in the kill pen.

                                Some horses do not take well to restricted activity, but worth a try , along with Nsaids.
                                Some riders change their horse, they change their saddle, they change their teacher; they never change themselves.

                                Remember the horse does all the work, we just sit there and look pretty.


                                • #17
                                  My mare injured herself 7 1/2 years ago. It took time to diagnose (U/S being key), but it turned out to be torn collateral ligament holding her stifle. She circumducted at the trot similarly to the video. She was only 4 at the time, but we did stall rest for 3 months, then small area turn out another 3 months and then she was turned out. We only checked U/S a second time at three months (which showed little healing, but clinically she was very much improved).

                                  Approximately 10 months after the injury, the vets suggested I start riding her. She was uneven and asymmetrical at the trot for a long time, but we worked - trot poles, dressage lessons, hill work - slowly and steadily. We had some other issues to work though as well, but I am happy to report that she's completely sound and has completed 210 miles of distance riding this year.

                                  Stall rest I think was key to her recovery. We've never followed up with another U/S, we just go by how she is clinically. I think her young age was helpful in her recovery as well. Good luck to your friend and her rescue - time and stall rest go a long way to healing. And positive thoughts...


                                  • #18
                                    That's really interesting syreino

                                    All she does know Is that the injury is not new. The vet encouraged to keep him somewhat confined but not necessarily in a stall.
                                    He's in a dry lot with room to move but discourage mad running.

                                    I don't think she will invest too much in terms of diagnostic as the prognosis was fairly guarded due to the severity of the lameness and the obvious age of whatever caused it.

                                    Horse is very happy and at a walk you really can't see it.