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  • Sore No More Gel cause mild inflammation?

    Has anyone experienced this? Under instructions, was applying 2x a day since Saturday. Stopped Thurs. a.m...

    Leg is mildly filled with pitting edema. Temp normal. Vet is consulting.

    Checking to see if anyone might've experienced negative reactions w/Sore No More Gel.

    Thanks.

  • #2
    Horses can have localized reactions to just about anything due to individual sensitivities, but I'd probably look to whatever condition required the application of SNM before assuming the liniment was the problem...

    Has the horse tolerated this sort of application in the past?

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      #3
      Thanks, Simkie, for sharing your personal experiences with Sore No More causing localized inflammation on YOUR horse

      It was definitely the Sore No More. Horse was super cranky as I washed it off. Hopefully, we got ahead of it before too much irritation developed.

      Anyone have personal experience with Sore No More causing irritation/ swelling/ pitting edema?

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      • #4
        Oh, I'm sorry! Did not mean to give you the impression I've ever had that happen in one of mine. Nope. I'd be hesitant to use that much liniment at all. Way too easy to scurf or blister. They work by being minor irritants, after all. I've seen horses blister on once daily Surpass, which is a real, actual, anti inflammatory! I have a healthy respect for stuff with a lot of ingredients and sensitive skin.

        I generally stick with 12 on/12 off when using "stuff" on legs. Gives the skin a break, really reduces the risk of adverse effects. Maybe you should try that

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        • #5
          My OTTB had a mild suspensory strain 4 years ago, so after rides that had a lot of cantering or jumping, I put SNM ( the liquid in a spray bottle, not the gel) on both legs from the knee down, just to baby the legs. The next morning he would be swollen from the fetlock down, no heat, no lameness or sensitivity. This reaction didn't happen every time, but it would always occur if I iced his legs first.
          Proud mother to Matt, a 18 year-old TB gelding.

          FOREVER

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            #6
            Hmm.. Brookdale, that's interesting.
            I also wonder if the gel isn't tolerated as well as perhaps the spray.

            I typically apply any liniment to water, then apply via sponge. But was told to apply this directly. I'll bet it's the cause of what's going on in this guy. Off to google..

            Anyone else?

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            • #7
              Yes it has happened to my uber sensitive diva of a horse. I can't even use corona for cuts on this guy. I don't use any liniments, just uptite clay poultice if I want to help him out. Can't even wrap him in standing wraps. For the ultra sensitive, I just use uptite as it has no additives that could cause issues. So sorry but at least you know the cause of the swelling!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Sansena View Post
                Hmm.. Brookdale, that's interesting.
                I also wonder if the gel isn't tolerated as well as perhaps the spray.

                I typically apply any liniment to water, then apply via sponge. But was told to apply this directly. I'll bet it's the cause of what's going on in this guy. Off to google..

                Anyone else?
                I use the SNM poultice and there is absolutely no reaction to that. I also use the spray on his back and there is no reaction in that area, just his legs. For a liniment rinse, I use Vetrolin, diluted in water, and that doesn't cause a reaction either. He's sensitive to bug bites, and this summer there were a few days where he came in with welts on him from the deer flies and mosquitoes.
                Proud mother to Matt, a 18 year-old TB gelding.

                FOREVER

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                • #9
                  I haven't had it with Sore No More in particular, but I have had a similar reaction (filling with pitting edema) to other liniment (and, incidentally, also to Surpass). I'm now incredibly careful with topicals of any sort for that horse.

                  Your suspicion about gel concentration seems quite plausible. I wouldn't rule out an ingredient specific to the SNM gel formulation being the culprit, though, if your guy has had other liniments applied by sponge before without reaction.

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                  • #10
                    I could be wrong, but I believe that the whole "theory" behind liniment is that it increases blood flow to the area. That increased blood flow can end up looking like, being, inflammation. It may be that your horse is just more sensitive to SNM than most horses and so the increased blood flow got out of control.

                    I've never had that experience with SNM, but I did have that happen with Absorbine once. It was almost like a chemical burn on my horse's back. And that was with the Absorbine herbal liniment, not the original formula.
                    "The formula 'Two and two make five' is not without its attractions." --Dostoevsky

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                    • Original Poster

                      #11
                      Not my horse.. vet consulted. The fear is this could go into cellulitis. Horse has other medical issues that the SNM was meant to help. So much for that.

                      I'm kicking myself for not spot testing first..

                      It seems many of these topical work well. Until they don't. I had a horrible burn on my horse that took from June - last week of October to clear after using Pyranha Wipe & Spray. many, MANY people use this product, swear by it and think it's great. My horse? Makes his skin want to leave his body. Yikes.

                      Thanks everyone.

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