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2/3/2011 UPDATES...... Re: Lame after shoeing, 4 times in a row.....

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    #21
    Originally posted by J.D. View Post
    some deductive reasoning would tend the viewer of the posted rads to see a more "stumpy or clubby" appearance to the foot, thus a smaller shoe to be applied; just anedoctal but hey.....

    But hey.... those rads you posted are not of my horse.

    Also the farrier never looked at my rads. And compared to pictures I just pulled up from 6 months ago, his feet ARE looking rather stumpy and clubby and "quarterhorsey" now compared to what they were before..... so thanks, your posts are making me lean more towards the farrier being the source.
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      #22
      Originally posted by naters View Post
      But hey.... those rads you posted are not of my horse.

      Also the farrier never looked at my rads. And compared to pictures I just pulled up from 6 months ago, his feet ARE looking rather stumpy and clubby and "quarterhorsey" now compared to what they were before..... so thanks, your posts are making me lean more towards the farrier being the source.
      Your Welcome!

      Hopefully others will learn something from our parlay. That when issues arise a full and thorough explaination of the situation should exist; the more you thought you got banged on the more information you divulged!

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        #23
        Ugh. Can someone tell me where the ignore button is?
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          #24
          Originally posted by naters View Post
          Ugh. Can someone tell me where the ignore button is?

          Ok, I'll stop.........

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            #25
            All,

            Thank you so much for your insights (SA: I called the vet again just to make sure I had asked him for pasterns too).

            I found the ignore button (its to the right under someone's profile pic on their profile page).

            I didn't realize that the block still shows up, though the contents don't, it still says
            " This message is hidden because XXXX is on your ignore list. "
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              #26
              It is baiting you to look

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                #27
                Originally posted by LMH View Post
                It is baiting you to look
                Here Kitty, Kitty.....

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by LMH View Post
                  It is baiting you to look

                  That is what I was thinking

                  Unfortunately, I would have to unblock to look, then re-block, and that would just be too much effort at this moment

                  Headed to the barn to check on my poor boy, he is such a sweetie!!
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by naters View Post
                    That is what I was thinking

                    Unfortunately, I would have to unblock to look, then re-block, and that would just be too much effort at this moment

                    Headed to the barn to check on my poor boy, he is such a sweetie!!
                    Here Kitty, kitty, kitty.........just for grins and giggles:

                    http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/6916327

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                      #30
                      Good lord, J.D., really? Talk about aggravating. And, I've got to say, regardless if this is a farrier issue or not, the farrier obviously doesn't want to be part of the 'team' anyway, or he would have waited for naters to get there to do the horse. Sounds like time for a new farrier, regardless!
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                        #31
                        It's like its very own LOLCATS isn't it?

                        "Insecure Farrier behaves insecurely, hopez 4 attenshun from stranger"
                        Your crazy is showing. You might want to tuck that back in.

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                          #32
                          Originally posted by Timex View Post
                          And, I've got to say, regardless if this is a farrier issue or not, the farrier obviously doesn't want to be part of the 'team' anyway, or he would have waited for naters to get there to do the horse. Sounds like time for a new farrier, regardless!
                          I agree! That would have bothered me most of all. Naters is obviously trying to do the right thing by meeting with the farrier and having him explain what he is doing and why....but he blew her off. On purpose? Maybe. Maybe not. But it sure paints him in a poor light since he knew the horse had been lame and she was coming to discuss it with him. I'd be pointing the blame at him based on his behavior, alone.

                          Luckily she's getting the vet out as well, to get the bottom of this as quickly as possible.

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                            #33
                            Originally posted by DMK View Post
                            It's like its very own LOLCATS isn't it?

                            "Insecure Farrier behaves insecurely, hopez 4 attenshun from stranger"
                            Your right, absolutely right and no doubt about it your right.

                            But next time one has a lameness issue let's tell all the helpful tidbits of the scenario/situation that are pretinate from the get go. With most lameness cases and talking with an owner; like this morning's episode, it's an hour dragging information out of an owner. First the salutations, then anger, then denial, then interests, then evaluation and so forth. Then we may shoe the horse or pull the shoes or make another referral or just leave.
                            Since it was the Internet i took a short cut in the discussion phase to help get the information to come to the top and people could get to work....

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                              #34
                              JD, you really are being insecure. The OP BEGAN the thread with wondering if there were changes in the horse's feet, just wanted to be there when the farrier was working on the horse, and has already put a call in the vet!

                              Most people don't want to put all of the information about a horse and his history in the first point -- it can be complicated.

                              Don't see any farrier bashing here, just fair questions.

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                                #35
                                Anybody else wondering if J.D. is actually naters farrier? Lol. And its 'pertinent' information. Not pretinate. Whatever that is.
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                                  #36
                                  Originally posted by naters View Post
                                  It doesn't appear to be a hot nail, but the last time the farrier came out to pull the shoe off (he was DEAD lame last time) it provided immediate relief, and I noted that there was a nail hole that appeared to be too far inward in the sole, through the laminar wall
                                  Anyone else find this telling?

                                  Either the shoe was makeing the horse sore or the nail was.
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                                    #37
                                    Originally posted by JohnDeere View Post
                                    Anyone else find this telling?

                                    Either the shoe was makeing the horse sore or the nail was.
                                    No, too caught up in the ensuing drama..

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                                      #38
                                      Originally posted by grayarabpony View Post
                                      No, too caught up in the ensuing drama..
                                      There is "no drama"; owner jousts the farrier w/o all the facts.
                                      owner divulges more info when pressed. Owner doesn't realize steps of death.... oops... lamness..


                                      typical for this forum; emotion first instead of facts...

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                                        #39
                                        OK, I read only the first post-- to which I'll respond-- and then the other "side show" posts.

                                        First, I can't recall *ever* having had a horse lamed up after a showing.... let alone 4 times.

                                        Second, I am the type to show up and want to be included in the discussion about what's going on with my horse's feet. I don't know whether that means I have a more careful kind of farrier who also will tolerate some technical discussion with an owner, look at rads, watch the horse move, etc., or whether my "supervision" plays a part in keeping them sound.

                                        But it does mean that the OP has a part in this. I'll cut a farrier some slack for getting anything wrong once-- making a horse sore or shoeing without me when I asked to be there, or not quite doing what a vet had prescribed. But I won't do any of these things twice.

                                        If I have an established relationship with a farrier and we both already have a shoeing plan for my horse, I don't mind a "swoop in and do it" plan. If we *do* currently have a problem that we're trying to address, I'd consider the shoeing without me to be either careless or bad faith.
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                                          #40
                                          Originally posted by J.D. View Post
                                          There is "no drama"; owner jousts the farrier w/o all the facts.
                                          owner divulges more info when pressed. Owner doesn't realize steps of death.... oops... lamness..


                                          typical for this forum; emotion first instead of facts...
                                          The facts of the OP's horse's lameness do indeed point toward the farrier's work.

                                          It would appear you can't recognize sarcasm when you see it; not about the drama, which is genuine, but about what was in the OP's original post.

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