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  • Deworming?

    I just found out that our barn owner is asking all of the boarders to sign an updated boarding agreement which includes a clause requiring that every horse on the property be dewormed every 2 months according to the instructions given by the barn owner's vet. Prior to this, each boarder was responsible for their own horse's deworming. I worked with the vet I prefer (not the same as the BO's). We do a FEC twice a year and deworm my horse at the beginning of the grazing season in the spring and at the end in the fall. To this point that's been working well, and the FEC have come back clear.

    I'm not sure if I should be concerned about this new deworming requirement. It seems unnecessary to add an additional 4 dewormings to a horse that has had clear FECs twice a year for the last three years (all at the same barn). I wonder if that's just contributing to more resistance problems. It's also an additional $60 per year ($15/worming). That's the least of my concerns but I'm still a grad student on a budget and $15 here or there starts to add up.

    Thoughts?

  • #2
    Have you spoke with them? They may be willing to allow you to continue what you're doing if you provide documentation. Seems like an outdated method to me but I guess they can do whatever they want...

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    • #3
      Maybe it would be helpful to show them the AAEP guidelines?

      https://aaep.org/sites/default/files...idelines_0.pdf

      We've known for quite a long time that that every 8 week rotation really is not the way to go. If they're going to be firm on this, it might be worth moving over

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      • #4
        I have found that Vets are dictating more and more what owners need to do in order to keep their services.

        I truly believe that this is borne of financial issues, and while I absolutely understand that, I simply cannot agree.

        A local Vet firm mandated that if you didn't have your horses **completely** vaccinated by them, annually, they would not be available for emergencies for your horses. I vaccinate for what I feel my herd is at risk for (closed herd). NOT what I would cover them for if they were competing or if I had a changing population. That's my choice.

        I am sorry that the OP is dealing with this.
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        • #5
          It's probably because others at the barn don't have a strict protocole...

          I would talk with BO and BO's vet and put them in communication as well with your own vet, showing your protocole and results.

          Twice a year should suffice, but there might be a bigger problem at this barn that you are not aware of.

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          • #6
            I'd question the vet's protocol. Why 6 dewormings/year. That is an old-fashioned recommendation UNLESS there are specific issues at this particular barn.

            It's your horse and your money. I would question this because it's outdated.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Amy3996 View Post
              I just found out that our barn owner is asking all of the boarders to sign an updated boarding agreement which includes a clause requiring that every horse on the property be dewormed every 2 months according to the barn owner's vet.

              Thoughts?
              So have you confirmed that the vet is just going to lay out a list of wormers to be administered every 2 months, or if the vet is going to recommend a plan individually tailored to each horse's needs, fecal results, etc?
              "When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in a confederacy against him."

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              • #8
                That protocol might make sense at a busy show barn with non-boarded horses coming in & out, or a racetrack.
                At a quiet boarding barn with relatively little movement of horses.,,, not so much.

                That said, many years ago I boarded at such a place - when the Every 8 Weeks was pretty standard.
                At that barn BO was an asshat who refused to let me worm my own horses, even when I offered to adhere to whatever schedule/product he demanded & provide evidence (empty syringes) that I had wormed my 2.
                His "reason" was that he charged $20 for his staff to worm each horse - no matter what was used.
                At that time some products cost all of $10, Ivermectin was even cheaper.
                He also demanded a vaccination schedule so frequent that when I called my vet to schedule, office always said "Again?"
                AND had visiting vet sign a logbook detailing which horse had been seen & for what.
                Insulting to the professional at the least & one more way to micro-manage boarders.

                OP: Perhaps ask if your vet can consult with barn vet & arrive at some sort of mutual agreement?
                Otherwise you may have to suck it up - as I did for 4yrs before moving somewhere else < for a variety of reasons.





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                • #9
                  As Simkie shared, many years ago the AAEP changed the recommendation for deworming horses. One reason is that there was no new research ongoing to create a new deworming product for horses. If worms build up a resistance to the products available now then the horse is at risk.

                  You might speak with the BO and show her how you have been deworming your horse based on the neg FEC and see if she/he will allow you to continue this proven successful plan. Don't ask her to change the entire barn to this because that will tick her off. Just your horse.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by ASB Stars View Post
                    I have found that Vets are dictating more and more what owners need to do in order to keep their services.

                    I truly believe that this is borne of financial issues, and while I absolutely understand that, I simply cannot agree.

                    A local Vet firm mandated that if you didn't have your horses **completely** vaccinated by them, annually, they would not be available for emergencies for your horses. I vaccinate for what I feel my herd is at risk for (closed herd). NOT what I would cover them for if they were competing or if I had a changing population. That's my choice.

                    I am sorry that the OP is dealing with this.
                    This comes down to one thing: if you support the practice with annual exams they will be there for you at 10:00PM when your horse needs stitches or treatment for a colic. We have a two large animal practices in the area that will treat anyone's horses at any hour but they are the exception and not the norm.

                    In our area vaccination requirements are driven more by the barn owners and the activity on site or how much they haul out.

                    The vet I work does not employ a one size fits all vaccination plan for the clients horses. The retired horse that lives at home will get rabies & 6 way shot. The hauled out horses will get that plus strangles and a flu/rhino boost in the fall. My vet also does not provide emergency services to non-established clients.

                    I do agree that a vet doubling the cost of a $35 vaccine to $70 when sold to you is frustrating, especially if you have more than a couple horses. OTOH that fee is a gateway to the vets expertise when your horse is in deep trouble.

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