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    What is everyone's go-to for healing Scratches? Last year my gelding developed some when he sustained an injury that required wrapping during a very wet spring, and this year he's developed scratches on all 4 feet that don't want to heal, despite the weather now being excessively dry. Everything I've tried doesn't seem to help... any wild and crazy ideas or home remedies that have proven helpful?

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    What have you tried so far?

    If most of the "usuals" haven't worked, then I would probably suggest taking your horse to the vet for a scraping and culture.

    The only "serious" case I've had of scratches was a strange one. My horse Red developed it on one hind leg in the middle of winter. Mind you, I live in North Dakota where horses aren't supposed to get scratches in the cold .... but I guess Red didn't get that memo. It even started on the side of his pastern (rather than close to the ground) and then spread downward. It swelled his leg up and everything. I had a vet appointment anyway coming up, so we cleaned it up really good and she did a scraping. Meanwhile, she mixed up a little custom ointment that did the trick and cleared it up pretty quickly. It was a mix of anti-bacterial and anti-fungal.

    I also did betadine washes every couple of days, and then used MTG after the ointment was gone. It hasn't been back since.
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      Originally posted by beau159 View Post
      What have you tried so far?

      If most of the "usuals" haven't worked, then I would probably suggest taking your horse to the vet for a scraping and culture.

      The only "serious" case I've had of scratches was a strange one. My horse Red developed it on one hind leg in the middle of winter. Mind you, I live in North Dakota where horses aren't supposed to get scratches in the cold .... but I guess Red didn't get that memo. It even started on the side of his pastern (rather than close to the ground) and then spread downward. It swelled his leg up and everything. I had a vet appointment anyway coming up, so we cleaned it up really good and she did a scraping. Meanwhile, she mixed up a little custom ointment that did the trick and cleared it up pretty quickly. It was a mix of anti-bacterial and anti-fungal.

      I also did betadine washes every couple of days, and then used MTG after the ointment was gone. It hasn't been back since.
      I've tried Hibitane (both scrub and ointment), Betadine, Blue Kote, MTG, Hooflex (for sake of softening scabs) and Bag Balm. He sees the Vet (For unrelated things) on Friday so I was going to ask if she had any other ideas. I had heard from someone they tried Toothpaste and DeWormer paste mixed and it worked.

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      • #4
        My problems with persistent scratches cleared up when I added copper and zinc to the diet. POOF, gone, after running through the "usual" remedies.

        Poly copper and poly zinc from Uckele or Horsetech. A half dose of each.

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        • #5
          I got my has-not-failed-so-far treatment right here on COTH. Mix equal parts diaper rash ointment, monistat or athlete's foot cream, triple antibiotic, and cortisone cream. Slather on, make sure leg is dry. Do not wash before hand or pick off scabs. Repeat daily.

          Works like a charm!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by oldernewbie View Post
            I got my has-not-failed-so-far treatment right here on COTH. Mix equal parts diaper rash ointment, monistat or athlete's foot cream, triple antibiotic, and cortisone cream. Slather on, make sure leg is dry. Do not wash before hand or pick off scabs. Repeat daily.

            Works like a charm!

            Been using that formula for over 20 years. It works. The diaper rash ointment is zinc oxide which keeps moisture out. The antifungal, antibiotic and steroid work on the combination of fungus and bacteria that create the creeping crud, the cortisone cream is a steroid to reduce inflammation. Keep it dry, don't pick the scabs and in bad cases you might need to shave the leg to get rid of the hair that helps shelter the crud and hold in moisture.

            Should work in about a week. Ask your vet about oral SMZs, the sulfa drugs are effective for skin crud. And they are cheap.

            All this should cost you under $25, you probably have some of it around the house or barn. If you buy it all at once, you might get a funny look from the cashier at the Wal Mart. BTW store brands on all this stuff are fine, no need for the pricier brand names.
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            • #7
              Recent thread with some other remedies.

              https://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/f...-for-scratches
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              • #8
                Originally posted by oldernewbie View Post
                I got my has-not-failed-so-far treatment right here on COTH. Mix equal parts diaper rash ointment, monistat or athlete's foot cream, triple antibiotic, and cortisone cream. Slather on, make sure leg is dry. Do not wash before hand or pick off scabs. Repeat daily.Works like a charm!
                Slightly different recipe works great for us:

                1lb diaper rash (store brand)
                1lb nitrofurazone (about $8.00 online)
                1oz triple-antibotic cream (store brand)
                1oz athlete's foot cream (store brand)

                Apply liberally 2x a day. Don't pick scabs and try not to wash the area. You want the area moisturized so it can heal. The above recipe will yield 2lbs for about $20

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                  #9
                  Thanks everyone!! I will be off to the store for Diaper Rash Cream, Antibiotic Cream, Athletes Foot Cream and reluctantly have the 'other' item so i'm good there.. lol!

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                  • #10
                    Instead of athletes foot cream. Get store brand microconozole cream (yeast infection cream). You get a ton more and it's cheaper.
                    When opportunity knocks it's wearing overalls and looks like work.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by findeight View Post
                      Instead of athletes foot cream. Get store brand microconozole cream (yeast infection cream). You get a ton more and it's cheaper.
                      Okie doke - then I just need to pick up the Diaper Rash/Zinc Cream and Antiobiotic Cream.. thanks!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by _DressageDiva_ View Post
                        What is everyone's go-to for healing Scratches? Last year my gelding developed some when he sustained an injury that required wrapping during a very wet spring, and this year he's developed scratches on all 4 feet that don't want to heal, despite the weather now being excessively dry. Everything I've tried doesn't seem to help... any wild and crazy ideas or home remedies that have proven helpful?
                        All four legs in dry weather sounds immune to me - as suggested above, I'd look at the diet. Think about adding copper and zinc. And I had super luck with chronic scratches and skin issues feeding 8,000IU natural vitamin E daily.

                        I don't bathe frequently, scrub, pick, or clip the legs. I apply an ointment similar to the recipe above with the steroid or just furacin + dexamethasone.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by theresak View Post

                          All four legs in dry weather sounds immune to me - as suggested above, I'd look at the diet. Think about adding copper and zinc. And I had super luck with chronic scratches and skin issues feeding 8,000IU natural vitamin E daily.

                          I don't bathe frequently, scrub, pick, or clip the legs. I apply an ointment similar to the recipe above with the steroid or just furacin + dexamethasone.
                          I should mention, they started earlier this spring when it was wet.

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                          • #14
                            Equiderma is great stuff. Clears up most everything.

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                            • #15
                              Discuss with your vet at your upcoming appointment. Rule out systemic infections if possible.

                              Then Google Sox for Horses.

                              Buy as many sox as needed to keep affected area(s) covered and change sox daily. Do what you can to keep the sox dry.

                              Otherwise, no washing, no clipping, no ointments, goops, or potions.

                              I have a horse with chronic pastern dermatitis. Over ten years of chronic. Seen by regular vet with the condition evaluated many times, also seen once by a veterinary dermatologist. Every goop and potion and concoction has been tried. Animax/Panalog in the large size bottles. Systemic abx on multiple occasions, systemic antifungal for months, low dose dex. Supplementation with copper and zinc and VitE.

                              I have come to believe that in some of the more persistent cases like the one my horse is has, treating topically makes the lesions angry and reactive, and they (the lesions) somehow adapt to whatever you throw at them.

                              Hence, less is more. Try protecting from any outside irritants with the sox and see what happens.

                              My horse has been thrown out in a paddock/pasture for the last ten months and I have done next to nothing other than maybe run an occasional (anti-microbial) brush over the affected areas. Has he healed? No, the lesions are still there, but they are less angry and reactive than they have been in years. Fly season is arriving, and I am going to try to keep clean sox on him and hope the generally positive progression will continue.

                              If you must try something topical, the product that gave me the most hope was MudStop - which I bought from a vet in the Midwest who imported it from England.






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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by _DressageDiva_ View Post

                                Okie doke - then I just need to pick up the Diaper Rash/Zinc Cream and Antiobiotic Cream.. thanks!
                                Cortisone cream too!

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