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  • Rules Question Regarding Attire

    I need some clarification and knew I could count on CoTH. I am planning to start going recognized this year after doing just unrecognized so I was reading the rulebook to refresh my memory. Under attire, it says for dressage, breeches in a light color or white (sic). Is that required? I don't have any breeches in a light color (I prefer dark for hiding those less than attractive cottage cheese thighs) and have always thought that black would be perfectly acceptable.

    So, do I need to start shopping or is black okay? If not, I guess I can always wear Smart Slims.

    Thanks.
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    I have never seen anyone compete at a recognized HT in black breeches. (other than XC, of course)

    White is certainly not required (and traditionally is NOT suitable for women anyhow) but I wouldn't wear black or count on getting away with it. Time for some nice, medium-beige breeches that fit well, are comfortable, and that you like. Eventers themselves don't care about "appearances" like other disciplines do, but rules-wise (someone will correct me if I'm wrong) I really don't think black breeches will fly in dressage.

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    • #3
      I was apprenticing (SJ) at an event where a rider turned up in black britches.

      After she completed her SJ round, the judge asked her to come to the judge's stand and speak to her.

      It turned out that her show britches had some sort of dryer accident at the last minute, and the black ones were the only clean pair.

      The judge effectively said "In that case it is OK, but please don't do it again".

      So at least one judge thinks black britches are not legal.
      Janet

      chief feeder and mucker for Music, Spy, Belle and Tiara. Someone else is now feeding and mucking for Chief and Brain (both foxhunting now).

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      • #4
        If it says "white or light color" in the rules then yes, that's required.

        Certainly I have never seen black and I am pretty sure that is not permitted.
        Originally posted by PeanutButterPony
        you can shackle your pony to a lawn chair at the show...so long as its in a conservative color.

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        • #5
          You can find tan, beige, or "sand" colored breeches that will not show every mark and pucker -- I had a similar problem and found two or three brands that fit just fine and did not show everything. You want a stretch fabric with some "heft", such as the cord type, not necessarily the flat weaves. The ones with elastic waist and even the ones with the fit with a bit more room in the hips and thighs are good too. I chose full seats so I could wear them all day for all phases. Kerrits, Irideon, and those types seem to be the most flattering and come in the colors required. Many like the F.I.T.S. brand, too, and I've heard enough about them to really want to try a pair for my next big expense! Don't panic, you can find a pair that works. But sorry the color does have to be in the required range. Just stay away from that green beige and any white or cream.
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          • #6
            No "green-beige"? Like what the Hunters wear?

            Originally posted by retreadeventer View Post
            <SNIP> But sorry the color does have to be in the required range. Just stay away from that green beige and any white or cream.
            Wait - can you clarify what you mean by 'stay away from green-beige'?

            I'm a crossover from Hunters and only wear my TS breeches in what I think is considered "greenish-beige" It was the "in color" for Hunters.

            I've ridden in them for all my dressage tests. Albeit - only unrecognized and schooling level. Was planning to wear them for my first recognized BN though.

            From a distance, it just looks beige. But again - I'm pretty sure it's what I would have considered the "green-beige" tone.

            Here's a pic:
            http://www.bohtack.com/proddetail.as...upHntBr%5F1981

            Here's another one, TS "Green Beige"
            http://www.pc-cheats-codes.com/games...0407146226.jpg

            One more:
            http://www.countrytack.com/breeches/royalhunter.jpg


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            • #7
              green beige is fine, I have ridden CCI's in green beige. Black is not fine. You really do need a light color.

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              • #8
                In my opinion....the first one is beige. The next two are not. They are some variation of green or dark tan.
                Strictly speaking I would interpret the rule as LIGHT COLOR. If you read the entire rule, it specifically
                DRESSAGE TEST.
                a. Horse Trials (Beginner Novice through Preliminary)—Hunt Cap—black or dark blue; Coat—dark color or tweed, tail coats are not permitted; Shirt—white or light color, with stock and pin, or choker, or tie; Gloves (if worn)—dark color, tan, beige or white; Jodhpurs, Britches—light color or white; Boots—black, brown, field, jodhpur or a black or brown full grain smooth leather leg piece and matching leather boots.

                And for stadium/show jumping:
                7. JUMPING TEST. Hunting dress or uniform. Protective headgear, with chin harness, designed expressly for equestrian use in accordance with paragraph 1 above. Hat covers other than solid black or dark blue are not allowed. Coat—dark color or tweed (if Novice through prelim.) Shirt—stock with pin, choker or tie; Gloves (if worn)—dark color, tan, beige or white; Jodhpurs, Britches—light color or white; Boots—black, brown, field, jodhpur or a black or brown full grain smooth leather leg piece and matching leather boots.

                I don't think you would get anyone freaking out if you wore the green beige.....but....Strictly speaking, light colored isn't really defined, but do we really need ANOTHER rule? Light -- beige, cream, hunting color I would think. I mean you can have light blue, light yellow, light pink....but I do not think that is what they mean by "light color". I think they are looking at the conservative hunting attire and wanting light beige, since that is the root history of English attire generally.

                But hey I learned something new -- if you wear a stock you MUST wear a pin! I didn't know that. My pins are already on my stocks, but it's a good reminder to make sure.
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                • #9
                  Cat-sick beige (the TS color) is perfectly fine.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by deltawave View Post
                    Cat-sick beige (the TS color) is perfectly fine.
                    It is LEGAL.

                    Whether or not it is "fine" is a matter of personal opinion!
                    Janet

                    chief feeder and mucker for Music, Spy, Belle and Tiara. Someone else is now feeding and mucking for Chief and Brain (both foxhunting now).

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Janet View Post
                      It is LEGAL.

                      Whether or not it is "fine" is a matter of personal opinion!

                      Touche!

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                      • #12
                        Cat-sick beige! I love it!
                        Out of style around here anyhow...but golly white is REALLY out of style, too. I think you only see white at Rolex anymore.
                        I used to wear white a lot but haven't even put them on for a couple of years.
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                        • #13
                          This might be the art major in me, but IMO if you are wearing a dark jacket (black or navy) then wouldnt the light colored breeches just look better? Im not very fashionable, but I just threw my dressage coat (black) on with my black breeches... not a good look besides being illegal. Its wayyy less flattering; I look like Im wearing a hideous pantsuit! But I think black breeches for xc looks pretty badass besides being practical
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                          • #14
                            I have godawful cottage-cheese legs, and I can't stand light-colored breeches. My "happy medium" for (unrecognized) eventing is a pair of Irideons in a nice shade of grey. It probably wouldn't fly for recognized events, but it'll do for the level I'm at.
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                            • #15
                              Didn't realize the coat rule was "dark or tweed"... does that mean you can wear hunter brown or charcoal coats? I think they're so pretty, but have never seen one worn in dressage at an HT.

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                              • #16
                                I see a LOT of the green-beige at local one-days in Area II, in addition to beige. Some light gray, but less common. The green-beige is much easier to keep clean/neat on a busy day (and more flattering than white to most of us mere mortals).

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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by Zephyr View Post
                                  Didn't realize the coat rule was "dark or tweed"... does that mean you can wear hunter brown or charcoal coats? I think they're so pretty, but have never seen one worn in dressage at an HT.
                                  Yes
                                  Janet

                                  chief feeder and mucker for Music, Spy, Belle and Tiara. Someone else is now feeding and mucking for Chief and Brain (both foxhunting now).

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                                  • #18
                                    The only time I think you can wear dark breeches for dressage might be if you are in the military and are wearing their "uniform" Get your self a nice pair of somewhat loosely fitting light breeches - TS makes a kind of baggyone (comes in lots of colors for those of us w/ less than perfect figures...

                                    as far as jackets go - norm is black or navy; I have seen some tweeds; shucks in the summertime if it's hot jackets are excused most of the time for dressage anyway so make sure you have a nice shirt!

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                                      #19
                                      Well, I guess I'll be shopping then. I didn't think about how my navy coat would look with black, thanks for bringing that up. I do have a couple pairs of cat sick beige but they're both knee patch and wear them very seldom, as in never. I'm currently liking the Ovation full seats, not too clingy and seem pretty durable plus being reasonably priced.
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                                      • #20
                                        So is light gray acceptable. It is a light color but I never see anyone at events wearing it. Actually contrary to what a few others have said on this thread I see a ton of white being worn.

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