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What is the BEST breastplate/breastcollar arrangement for cross-country?

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  • What is the BEST breastplate/breastcollar arrangement for cross-country?

    I am interested in hearing about breastplates, breastcollars, the "5-point" breastplates, etc. (What is the advantage of those, by the way?)

    What is your pet peeve about breastplates and breast collars?

    What fit to do you prefer?

    What is the best brand for the cost?

    In the picture evaluation section of the recent Eventing magazine, Kim Severson spoke about breastcollars breaking and a certain kind being better if it broke. I could not see from the picture which kind she was talking about -- can anyone clarify that, too?

    What is the safest type of breastplate/collar arrangement in your experience?
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    I think this is REALLY a matter of personal preference. I really prefer the "polo" type breastplates...the ones that go back to the billets. I feel like they give the very best stability to the saddle. But that's MY preference. I don't think any one type is necessarily safer or better (though, I do think certain types are better on certain builds. The polo type is MUCH better on the round little ponies I ride than a hunting breastplate). I think the 5 point is overkill, but that's me, and we have an on-going joke in the barn about Jan Bynny's broken record of suggesting them for EVERY horse in the "Jumping Clinic" type column she was doing in US Eventing. But, really, in the long run, it's all a personal preference.

    I DO feel that they SHOULD be used when jumping, especially on xc. I think of it as a piece of safety equipment or as essential as a girth...I just don't jump unless I have a breastplate on.
    Amanda

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    • #3
      I agree with YB that different styles seem to fit better on different body types. My BIG TB - 18h and built much more like a WB - fits well into a hunting breastplate and actually wears it for all 3 phases (since his back is built like a ski slope...and he actually wears a breastplate and a non-slip pad...). He's got one of the nunn finer hunting breastplates (without elastic) - we've had it for 3 years now, use it daily, and it's holding up well.

      The smaller, more classically built TB and the pony-esque TBx both wear a 5-point breastplate. I had a hard time finding a hunting breastplate that fit the smaller TB, but the 5-point fit him to a T. The TBx wears the 5-point largely because he inherited the smaller TB's tack when he retired.

      I tried adjusting the 5-point breastplate for the bigger TB but just couldn't get it to fit him right, given the way he's built...so we stick with the hunting one...it's easier to clean anyway!
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      • #4
        Pretty much everything YB said. I like the polo style, because to me it looks like the least interference when jumping, and I think it attaches at pretty solid points on the saddle. And I think the 5 points are overkill, and look it. Especially with the little fluffy puffs all over them.

        I always jump in a breastplate and martingale, just in case. If you dont need them, they do nothing, if you do, they save youre butt (or face, or whatever hah). Though at home I school in a Y elastic breastplate because its quick and easy (and already gross and old) and save my polo one for xc and such.

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        • #5
          I also use the breastcollar that attaches at the billets, with the neck strap over the neck. I think it keeps my saddle in place much better than a hunting breastplate, which I used on my horse for years. I also like the face that it is much easier to clean (less leather!) on a day to day basis.

          Having said that, if they break on course as Kim Severson suggested, YES you will be in a pickle. And often they are more likely to break because the elastic stretches and weakens over time. The Nunn Finer one that I use has 2 small areas that both have double elastic, so only one should break at a time, giving me a safety margin. I also only use it for shows and check the elastic carefully each time. I had a schooling one that broke while jumping at home, and the rest of the excess was flying around EVERYWHERE before I figured out what had happened and pulled up. Thank God my horse could care less.

          I would consider a five point if there wasn't so much to clean! Also, I like having two breastplates, one for show, and one for schooling, so I am using the same equipment at the show that I am at home. But I can't justify the cost of buying two.

          I do use a hunting breastplate in dressage because my horse has rather large shoulders and I think it follows the line of them quite nicely while breaking up the look of the large front end.

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          • #6
            That's Me!

            I am the first rider/photo in Eventing magazine's Kim Severson review. So cool - thanks Grey Dun - you made my day!

            I talked to one of my coach's on Kim's comments. The comment was the danger about attaching the breastplate to the D rings. What the review doesn't mention is the option of using D ring savers. I have used the D ring savers on my saddle's stirrup bars for years and at the level I am competing think that is completely adequate. I don't need to go shell out another $150+ for the 5 point breastplate du jour.

            I am going to write the Editor and mention the option of the D ring savers.

            Otherwise Kim's review was very helpful and kind !
            [img=http://thumb1.webshots.net/t/34/35/6/69/41/2554669410098335381BhThdE_th.jpg]

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            • #7
              Originally posted by OneDaySoon View Post
              I am the first rider/photo in Eventing magazine's Kim Severson review. So cool - thanks Grey Dun - you made my day!

              I talked to one of my coach's on Kim's comments. The comment was the danger about attaching the breastplate to the D rings. What the review doesn't mention is the option of using D ring savers. I have used the D ring savers on my saddle's stirrup bars for years and at the level I am competing think that is completely adequate. I don't need to go shell out another $150+ for the 5 point breastplate du jour.

              I am going to write the Editor and mention the option of the D ring savers.

              Otherwise Kim's review was very helpful and kind !
              Here is the image from the review:

              [URL=http://pets.webshots.com/photo/2367682010098335381oVzboO][/URL
              [img=http://thumb1.webshots.net/t/34/35/6/69/41/2554669410098335381BhThdE_th.jpg]

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              • #8
                Not all D rings are made the same either. There are the screw in kind, the sewn in kind, and on some event saddles they are sewn in but also attach internally and are quite hard to rip out. And of course D savers are pretty tough.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Bobthehorse View Post
                  Pretty much everything YB said. I like the polo style, because to me it looks like the least interference when jumping, and I think it attaches at pretty solid points on the saddle. And I think the 5 points are overkill, and look it. Especially with the little fluffy puffs all over them.

                  I always jump in a breastplate and martingale, just in case. If you dont need them, they do nothing, if you do, they save youre butt (or face, or whatever hah). Though at home I school in a Y elastic breastplate because its quick and easy (and already gross and old) and save my polo one for xc and such.
                  Does your polo breastplate have a running attachment? Can't seem to find one anywhere!
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                  • #10
                    No, I put on a separate running martingale. But the leather ones sometimes have a little loop that you can run a martingale through from girth to reins.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Bobthehorse View Post
                      No, I put on a separate running martingale. But the leather ones sometimes have a little loop that you can run a martingale through from girth to reins.
                      Thanks!
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                      • #12
                        On the D-saver note, I do something a little different with hunting-style breastplates. Instead of buckling and unbuckling the straps to the D-savers every time, I just leave them buckled, adjusted longer, and put them around the first billet strap. This will definitely not rip out! It's very quick to slip them on/off when saddling up.

                        My pet peeve? I hate putting clips on the straps to easily clip/unclip to D-savers. I feel that if anything will break when the breastplate is really under stress, it will be those teesny clips.
                        Blugal

                        You never know what kind of obsessive compulsive crazy person you are until another person imitates your behaviour at a three-day. --Gry2Yng

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                        • #13
                          I use a hunting breastplate with a running attachment on my guys. If you have a rein break/ bridle malfunction, you can steer to some extent and stop a horse with a hunting breastplate. I use snaps to quickly attach my breastplate to my D-savers, but don't use "teensy clips", rather I use ones like these only I think a little smaller.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by OneDaySoon View Post
                            I am the first rider/photo in Eventing magazine's Kim Severson review.
                            ...
                            Otherwise Kim's review was very helpful and kind !
                            *waves*

                            I'm in that issue as well - that's me on the chestnut! Loved her review as well. Now I am so embarrassed that I went XC wearing a show bow in my hair Not doing it anymore though!

                            Lately I use the same type of breastplate you have on in your photo, hooked to D-savers. Hadn't thought about having the extra strap if something broke. Although my horse hasn't had any problems with the saddle shifting since he filled out a little, so I may not even use the breastplate.

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                            • #15
                              I also just like the hunting breastplate and have attached it to billets, D-savers and sometimes just the D rings. I use it only for ME to hang onto when the little black wench pulls one of her dodge-n-dart moves. Her saddles fit fine! And I have a running attachment for XC, mostly to keep my reins in place if the breastplate doesn't keep me on her.

                              For her petite self the 5-point is too much stuff. I have a Prescott leather breastplate that loops the chest straps onto themselves so there are no ends flapping around - it has a very clean line.


                              I find that for whatever reason holding the breastplate acts as a bit of a brake - not just on her, but on other horses as well - Racehorses often wear a yoke for this purpose. I don't know if you would get the same effect from the 5-point - because it's too attached, and you would not get it from the polo type because it doesn't have an attachment between the legs.

                              There are many reasons to use the one that's right for you.

                              And as for clips? Driving people will not use them because they are considered the weakest link in a harness, so I'll take that tip for riding as well.

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                              • #16
                                Can someone be so kind as to post a pic of D-savers?

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                                • #17
                                  D-savers
                                  Blugal

                                  You never know what kind of obsessive compulsive crazy person you are until another person imitates your behaviour at a three-day. --Gry2Yng

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                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by Equa View Post
                                    Can someone be so kind as to post a pic of D-savers?
                                    Here ya go Equa.
                                    http://www.smartpakequine.com/Produc...d-_-NA-_-14153

                                    I personally like the polo style breast collars as well. You can attach them directly to your d rings, d ring savers, or your billets if you have the over the neck strap.
                                    Eventingismylife
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                                    • #19
                                      I forgot to add I like the polo style because it takes some pressure off the withers.

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                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by Zephyr View Post
                                        *waves*

                                        I'm in that issue as well - that's me on the chestnut! Loved her review as well. Now I am so embarrassed that I went XC wearing a show bow in my hair Not doing it anymore though!

                                        Lately I use the same type of breastplate you have on in your photo, hooked to D-savers. Hadn't thought about having the extra strap if something broke. Although my horse hasn't had any problems with the saddle shifting since he filled out a little, so I may not even use the breastplate.
                                        Very cool Zephyr even with the show bow!! I wonder who the third rider is?

                                        I leave the D-savers on my jumping saddle permanently - then they are always there to attach the breastplate to when I need them.
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