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"Mucking stalls ruins chidren's riding and self esteem"...an actual quote

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  • "Mucking stalls ruins chidren's riding and self esteem"...an actual quote

    Now, if this turns into bashing a particular discipline, I will ask the mods to shut it down.

    This past weekend I announced a dressage show, and brought the DrunkenBabyGiraffe's owners along with the child's pony, just for schooling purposes. They have never been to a recognized dressage competition.

    The DrunkenBabyGiraffe attracted a lot of attention whilst out handwalking or in her stall, along with the usual offers to
    *train her to her full potential*
    *have her going First Level by Fall*
    *breed her*
    *buy her*
    *train the 11yr old to Young Riders*
    etc, etc, etc - all normal for a new fish in the pond.

    BUT, the Funniest Comment:

    Mom is supervising child cleaning stall. Woman approaches mom and child, and hands over business card. Normal converstion ensues ("lovely horse, pony, child, day, etc.). And then:

    "But you know, your child CANNOT reach her FULL POTENTIAL mucking stalls. Children should spend their time RIDING and learning new skills, not grooming or cleaning stalls. Here's my card - I'll come to your barn, pick up your truck, trailer, horse, pony, load the trailer, bring your child to the show, unpack, etc...and you can fly in to see her rather than waste y'all's time with chores".

    I wonder how much business this woman has?

  • #2
    This nearly made my eyes bug out of my head. I was a 'barn rat' who LIVED under the feet of her trainers at shows (and still do, although now for money.) I learned...literally everything from those moments of packing and braiding, tacking and warming up...what the new trends were (especially with braiding, learned the dressage 'button braids' from a competitor stalled next door who taught me at 11 pm). I am almost appalled that there is a market for something like this, although not surprised.

    I understand what a luxury it might be to have someone else break icy water buckets at home in the AM, or have your horse on stall board and a worker cleans your stall. Thats a little bit different (although I still come from the old fashioned philosophy that a child shouldn't be allowed the responsibility to own a horse until they understand that horse is still living, breathing, and in need of attention-while you're at home sleeping, playing your xbox, watching tv, etc.) But if you can't respect your animal enough to personally see after his care, when you've toted him off to a show for your benefit...how much respect can you really show him under saddle. Its not just a fluke that professional riders SO respect the opinions of their grooms and stablehands. That is valuable, personal time you spend with that animal...to me, its one of my most treasured times with horses and makes it all worth while.

    ----

    ALTHOUGH, just to be devil's advocate, i've edited to add:

    There WERE times that mucking stalls did kill my self esteem--when I mucked 30 stalls after school at a hunter barn I couldn't have DREAMED to afford. Many of the stalls I mucked? Were the horses of classmates....and I DID go home crying some days as I wheeled around a muck bucket while they sat on 70k horses watching. However, when I was finally able to buy my own horse...care for it on my own, pay for its amenities...there was no sweeter moment in the world. (Plus, taught me to treat the staff like gold--they have your horse's life in their hands!)

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    • #3
      Well damned if that kid isn't going to use that excuse for the next 10 years! But MOOOOMMMMM, it's ruining my riding!
      There was a recent entry in the Chronicle about a dressage woman in Germany. I think she's a w-s? Anyway, they have to sweep by hand the entire barn aisle. She said it builds up the stomach muscles.
      Even duct tape can't fix stupid

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      • #4
        I guess that would explain my problems as an adult. I mucked a lot of stalls for the honor of riding a school horse as a kid.

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        • #5
          Good grief. That is the stupidest sales pitch I have EVER heard. I personally love mucking stalls. It's my quiet time. I crank the radio and sing along, providing no one is within earshot. I only have two stalls to do, but I don't remember hating it when I worked in barns and did 30 + a day.

          I would think that learning about all of the work that goes into having a horse would make the child appreciate their hobby that much more, would help keep them in shape and give them a sense of accomplishment, all things that would be GOOD for them.

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          • #6
            Another thread asks about cracks in the foundation - this attitude is one reason for those cracks.

            I remember a short TV session about Princess Anne before the 1976 Olympics. It was emphasized that she and her then husband, Capt. Mark Phillips, did the majority of their own horse care, including mucking of stalls.
            "Never do anything that you have to explain twice to the paramedics."
            Courtesy my cousin Tim

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            • #7
              Sorry...can't comment....laughing too hard.....can't.....breathe.....
              Honey badger don't give a sh!t.

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              • #8
                But I like cleaning stalls! It's one of my top 3 Favorite chores, along with sweeping and poulticing. I wonder what my trainer (I'm in a working student position) would say if I told her that stall cleaning was detrimental to my riding? Hahahaha!
                Team Awesome fo sho!

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                • #9
                  REALLY !!!!!

                  WHAT Blog Smog ~~~ I say "hand that woman a pitchfork and head her towards a stall ! She needs "LONG-TERM STALL MUCKING THERAPY" !! IMHO !
                  Last edited by Zu Zu; Jun. 22, 2010, 10:27 AM. Reason: addition
                  Zu Zu Bailey " IT'S A WONDERFUL LIFE ! "

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                  • #10
                    Soft hijack - justdandy ~ I love your signature !
                    Zu Zu Bailey " IT'S A WONDERFUL LIFE ! "

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                    • #11
                      LOL, it's a pretty good marketing ploy.

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                      • #12
                        wow.. no words other than just absolutely hysterical.... But Im dying to know, what did the parents say???!!
                        RIP Charlie and Toby

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                        • #13
                          There's no shortage of stupidity out there.
                          A friend who was teaching a riding class in an equine studies program had a student whine to her, "I don't see what grooming has to do with *riding*..."

                          Fortunately, the friend is far more diplomatic than I, and a discussion ensued.
                          "It's like a Russian nesting doll of train wrecks."--CaitlinandTheBay

                          ...just settin' on the Group W bench.

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                          • #14
                            So glad the DD does not read this board. :P She LOVES to muck out the stalls which can be interesting considering she is all of 3 ft tall trying to wield a 5 ft tall manure scoop into the handy radio flyer. If I told her she couldn't muck out the pony's stall after her ride I think she might have a fit at the pony standing in poop.
                            Adoring fan of A Fine Romance
                            Originally Posted by alicen:
                            What serious breeder would think that a horse at that performance level is push button? Even so, that's still a lot of buttons to push.

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                            • #15
                              Is there some method to do a remote psychic bitch slap?

                              Reed

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                              • #16
                                I'm glad I finally know what my problem is- I'm scarred for life from all those stalls I mucked as a kid .

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                                  #17
                                  Mom and child thought it was hysterically funny (although the child thought the woman was a bit scary).

                                  I'm going to grab that business card from them tomorrow and see whose name is on it!!

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                                  • #18
                                    When I was around that age and at barn camp we had to clean our horse's stall, clean their buckets, feed, etc. before we could eat breakfast. I had two ponies a couple of summers and was pathetic at cleaning stalls. It could take me HOURS sometimes to clean two stalls. I was very hungry sometimes.
                                    T3DE Pact

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                                    • #19
                                      FlightCheck, PLEASE let this woman know I was required to clean and bed 40 stalls each day on the weekends to pay for my lessons when I was a kid. Given that you know me, let know how I can SO identify with what she is saying. Then slap her.

                                      Reed

                                      P.S. Maybe she has some weird manure fetish?

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                                      • #20
                                        Well, she has a business plan and a target client group and by golly she's sticking to it.
                                        Click here before you buy.

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